Mystery

[Keith Webb]

I wonder whether anyone can tell me what this is... it ought to test your brains.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Yes! I know it - it is that....Loyd AA Carrier prototype thingy.

H.

[Keith Webb]

Here's another - naked this time.

[Richard Farrant]

Originally posted by Keith Webb
Here's the pic

Keith,

I do not think the "naked" photo is anything to do with the first one.
Reasons being;
1/ superstructure supports on naked pic come to outer track edge where as the first photo, the mock up hull is within the tracks.
2/ The first pic shows what looks like the drivers vision port at the drive axle end, where as the naked pic shows drivers position opposite to that.

There may be other things as well, not spotted.

Richard

[Keith Webb]

It also appears to have a driven axle both ends (!)

[Richard Farrant]

Originally posted by Keith Webb
It also appears to have a driven axle both ends (!)

Keith,

I thought it looked like it had sprockets on the other end, sounds like a nightmare job, did it have two engines?

Richard

[KiwiKev]

I think the two photos are of different beasts.

The second one has the the angle iron brackets to hold what would be a tarditional style of carrier body the top one does not have these.
My guess is the second one is a naked 3inch Australian mortar carrier, of which I have the remains of a manual for one.
Reasons for my guess:
Bones of a normal looking rear body.
Engine is on the left of the driver.

As for the first one, whats with the drive sprockets at each end? Must be fun to drive.
Could is possibly be a German product made of captured Carrier parts.
Reason for saying this
Angled body is along lines of German Armoured cars style.
The sedan looks Mercesdes like.

Just my pennies worth

regards
----
Auckland, New Zealand
Ex BAOR Series 2A Landrover Ambulance
Ex NZ & Aus. Army Series 2A GS Landrover
Ex NZ Army Series 1 Landrover
Ex USMC GMC ACK352

[Lynn Eades]

The first one is a normal Loyd carrier chassis with a mock up body on it. The second is as Kev says Its an Aust. carrier the particular model of which escapes me, but that drive line set up with the motor on one side and the transfer case etc is a give a way.

[Lynn Eades]

Just to explain. A Loyd carrier has a driving front axle with rear engine. they have brakes at both ends and so a sprocket is fitted at both ends. (if the track ran around a wheel, it would just slip when braking)
The second carrier has Aust pattern brake drums and actuators, also Aust steering wheel etc etc etc.

[Alex Blair (RIP)]

Originally posted by Keith Webb
Here's the pic

Hi Keith...

This looks like the chassis/engine set up for the Ozzie two pounder..The engine had to be moved to the co-drivers position to allow for the two pounder gun to be mounted in the back..Cliffie can confirm..

[Tony Smith]

The Angle Iron framework looks reminiscent of the "Tracked Truck, 1 ton". Could this be one version in the development stages utilising the running gear of the 2pdr/3in mortar carrier (which were obsolete by the time development on the Tracked Truck came around)? The Tracked Truck was eventually a LHD vehicle with the engine and gearbox on the right side of the driver and driving a straight driveshaft to a Chev axle from a C15. Could this change be a result of the very impractical gearshift as fitted to the 2pdr/3in carriers?

[cliff]

Originally posted by Alex Blair
Hi Keith...

This looks like the chassis/engine set up for the Ozzie two pounder..The engine had to be moved to the co-drivers position to allow for the two pounder gun to be mounted in the back..Cliffie can confirm..

yes it could well be the chassis of a 2lb attack carrier. I have recently been told that the mortar carrier and the attack carrier shared the same chassis.

cheers
Cliff

EDIT- see
http://www.mapleleafup.org/forums/sh...&threadid=4404