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Old 03-01-08, 18:32
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Colin, your engine has the positive crankcase ventilation system that came out on the military trucks in mid 1940. The really early ones just used the road draft tube like the civvy units and had the little slits in the tappet cover. All the other accessories I can see seem to be military too. David Hayward says it's a 1940 production military head so now all that's left is to check the block casting numbers that are kind of hidden by the starter. Some of the motors have the serial number stamped by the distributor but a lot of them don't from what I've seen. If the head was late 1940 it could be the original one for your Cab 12.
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1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5
1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box
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Old 03-01-08, 19:26
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I've now got round to getting my hands dirty on my C8 and have taken a few photos of the engine bay so I could ask you guys to help ID it.
Yep, that's a C8 engine bay all right!
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Old 03-01-08, 20:51
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We should need please:

a) Engine number off of the pad off the block
b) Casting number off the block
c) Casting date code off of the block
d) Casting date code off the cylinder head...it's on the flat part of the head and readable with cover off.
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Old 04-01-08, 09:35
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Cheers gents appreciated, especially Geoff for the positive confirmation
I'll try to get those details asap, amongst ordering the new gaskets etc.
Any idea the best place to order the mentioned parts, ideally uk based? Don’t really want to get into cutting my own gaskets.
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Old 26-01-08, 00:17
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On my C8 the rear window molding is on the outside of the cab and on my spare cab it's on the inside. The picture is the one I'm restoring. It even has all the twist thingies to attach the canvas speaking tube. If anyone wants any measurements off this setup just let me know. Does anyone have a definitive answer of which side the molding should be on? In the picture it doesn't look like it was ever on the other side.

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1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5
1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box
1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box
1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP
1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box
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Old 28-01-08, 20:12
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I just bought this remote for an 11 set on ebay for $36. I guess it's possible to get a good deal there. Now I just need the 11 set to go with it. It'll likely cost me more than $36 though.

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1940 Cab 11 C15 with 2A1 & Motley mount & Lewis gun
1940 Cab 11 F15A w/ Chev rear ends
1941 Cab 12 F15A
1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5
1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box
1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box
1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP
1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box
1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor
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Old 07-10-08, 03:31
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Another C8 to add to the list. I didn't have my camera with me but it's a Cab 12 with roof hatch and 1B1 body. It has the wireless grounding straps under the hood but the box doesn't have any radio equipment mounting holes and it looks original.
Serial # 2842001139
Engine # 3766036
Body serial # 146
The above body # is on the data plate but the plate on the box has serial # 599
The truck is fairly complete but has been converted to 6 bolt pickup wheels. The owner is planning a restoration.
At another location I picked up a couple of 25 pounder 1945 dated ammo boxes with decent lettering still there. I also got a spare valves case for my 19 set but there's no contents.
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1940 Cab 11 F15A w/ Chev rear ends
1941 Cab 12 F15A
1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5
1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box
1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box
1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP
1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box
1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor
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Old 07-10-08, 09:43
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I wonder what the TRIM section says? That has the engine # preffix: MR or WR. Thanks for that: C8 production was truncated as you know.
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Old 10-10-08, 03:54
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I made it back to the Cab 12 and took some pix. Note the spare tire holder in the front of the box and the rear window treatment.
I figured I might as well post the Dodge pic too and the ball turret. The turret has bullet feeds for two 50 cals but I'm not sure what it's off of. One of those would look good mounted hanging from a street light pole as a gate guard, wouldn't it?
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1941 Cab 12 F15A
1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5
1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box
1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box
1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP
1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box
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Old 10-10-08, 10:40
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I now have these in total. Production ended late 1941, so these were all 1942 MODELS but built in Fall 1941:


2842001130 ENGINE # MR3,765,943 BODY SERIAL # 155!
2842001139 ENGINE # MR3,766,036 BODY SERIAL # 146
2842001192 ENGINE # WR3,765,985
2842001330 ENGINE # WR3,766,091
2842001378
2842001395
2842001422
2842001427
2842001497

Note chassis 1139 has body 155, whereas the chassis about 30 minutes later down the line had body 146! I now need to check whether 1192 and 1330 actually had 'MR' engine ' prefixes and not 'WR'..I do wonder if MR was a mis-stamp for 'WR' which was appropriate and used on the heavier chassis. I have no other evidence of any 'MR'-prefixed engines.
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Old 03-05-09, 05:52
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I looked at that F8 with the winged mercury on the hood the other day and it dawned on me what it is. That's your gas detection paint and the guy that applied it got creative. Here's a better pic.
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1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5
1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box
1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box
1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP
1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box
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Old 03-05-09, 06:17
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I just bought this remote for an 11 set on ebay for $36. I guess it's possible to get a good deal there. Now I just need the 11 set to go with it. It'll likely cost me more than $36 though.

Those things turn up here regularly .. the Aust. ones were made by the PMG, or was it STC , anyway the PMG workshops ( PMG = public money grabbers or pigs meat and gravy ). The PMG was the Commonwealth owned post office and telephone company. We didn't have public telephone companies here til recently ...unlike the USA .

In New Zealand, it was even worse, they had a very weird setup, where the Govt. owned all of the radio broadcast stations .It was a commercial enterprise with paid adverts etc., but all owned by the Govt. Very odd and I've never heard of another case like that ... except in the 3rd world country run by a autocrat.
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Old 03-06-09, 04:24
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I found a well deteriorated original canvas cover for a 1B1 off a C8 and this is the stuff they had for windows. There's 32 threads per inch and the material is stiffer than canvas but it is cloth and it seemed to be a lighter green than the canvas. The piece in the pic is about 2 inches by 2 inches.
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1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5
1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box
1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box
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Old 15-11-09, 04:03
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I traded away my spare 1A2 and loaded it on a semi heading to Ontario. Before letting it go I had to remove the POW carrier. The early 1A2s had one taillight with the POW carrier on the opposite back corner. If you were loading up for a mission in North Africa how would you decide whether to take petrol, oil, or water? The later 1A2s had two taillights so wouldn't have a POW holder. I guess you'd find a few empty spaces to hold a few extra cans.
The spare box had all the radio mounting holes but just holes to mount two seats. (my good one uses three seats) The POW carrier didn't look big enough to hold one of the cans so I checked the fit. Looks can be deceiving since the can fits.
In the pics the carrier is sitting on my 2B1s fender.
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1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5
1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box
1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box
1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP
1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box
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Old 15-11-09, 16:20
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Default My F8 box and data plate

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Re the C8 pictures you showed - did you get a close-up of the spare wheel holder? I have to make one up for my F8. The books show the spare wheel at the back left - or was that just for the radio version?

I note that your pics show that the upper part of the lidded containers have been removed?

The one box seat that came with my truck was in the rearmost position facing right.

Regarding the cab rear window frame - mine had the moulding on the outside with a rather crude flat sheet metal "frame" on the inside.

Last point - my body number is 48 ( 411AC 48 actually) and my del. date is 11/7/41 which I still maintain is 11th November not (US style) 7th July!
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Old 15-11-09, 16:24
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I meant to say 11th July!
Also extra pic of my box as found- couldn't add two pics at once!
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David,
I checked out a few 1B1 boxes and got these pics. The first pic shows the spare tire mounting holes on the cabinet in the wireless version. You can see the marks where the spare wore the paint. Obviously the other versions wouldn't use this setup since they didn't have the cabinets.
The other two pics show a GS version but I don't know where the tire mounted. Both versions had those eight or so holes in the front of the box. I'm not sure what that strap on the footman loop held in place on the GS.
Is that the same rear window as yours? If yours has a rear seat it must be a wireless or personnel version. Does it have the copper grounding straps on all the body panels that the wireless trucks have?
I looked at your pics and yours is the radio truck. Only the radio version had those boxes with the lids on top of the wheel wells.
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1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5
1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box
1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box
1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP
1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box
1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor
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Old 06-12-09, 01:22
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Default Question about rear C-8 rear knee shock lower bracket...

Hello David. My C8 restoration is underway and although my rear shock absorbers are there, the correct lower mounts are gone. I am not sure what correct might be? Do have a pic? I could transfer the mounts in the attached pic from my C15 2 wheel drive over to the C8 but don't know if that would be correct. Thanks Rob
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Old 06-12-09, 18:10
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Rob,
Here's the C8 bracket. It looks to be a couple of inches longer than the C15 one and the shock mounts differently. The rear end is like a half ton uses so I checked a 46 chassis at the bottom of the yard but they're nothing the same. Being a casting, it seems you'll just have to add them to your parts needed list.
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1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5
1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box
1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box
1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP
1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box
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Default Thanks for the pic and info David...

one more piece for the list. Cheers Rob
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I found a well deteriorated original canvas cover for a 1B1 off a C8 and this is the stuff they had for windows. There's 32 threads per inch and the material is stiffer than canvas but it is cloth and it seemed to be a lighter green than the canvas. The piece in the pic is about 2 inches by 2 inches.
The window mesh on British 8 cwts was apparently a woven brass material , or copper .
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Mike, that's an interesting subject you mention here and one that has been keeping me busy for a while now.
I have seen pics of a beautiful Humber 8cwt restored and fitted with a canvas sporting mesh windows. I also read that mesh is the original material used in WW2 window canvas.

But, does anyone know the story behind the mesh? I mean....they had clear plastic back then...as was used in cab side curtains. So, was mesh used on all trucks which had "windows" in their canvas? Was it a temporary feature of some canvas suppliers who lacked clear plastic for a certain period during production ? Or does it have something to do with the radio equipment??? I presume it's the last, but would love to hear other thoughts.

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I looked through my collection of CMP pics and more than half of the ones with the canvas in place had mesh windows. Bear in mind that the ones with mesh windows had roll up curtains on the inside so it was likely a ventilation thing. I guess the curtains would be for blackout conditions too but I don't know for sure whether the plastic windows used them or not.
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I used to own this beautiful tarp. Here is as good a pic your going to see of the window makeup. Cheers Rob
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Going back to an earlier post of yours in this thread - was it only the radio version that had the lidded bins or did the personnel version have them too? Even earlier in this thread is a photo of my F8 before restoration - lidded bins, one seat in back and no trace of spare wheel holder. I'd particularly like to know what the spare wheel holder looked like - on the inner left side at the back of the box?
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It was just the wireless versions that had the bins in the back. The Gs versions don't have any bolt holes in the fenders, None of the trucks I've seen have had the spare tire bracket in place so I can't help you there.
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These drawings are from another thread. I guess some of the GS trucks had the bins along the sides although any I've come across didn't have any bolt holes in them.
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1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5
1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box
1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box
1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP
1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box
1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor
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I've been asked for more details to reproduce the top bows so here goes.
-the bottom channels aren't channel iron but have been bent to shape. The corners of the channel are rounded. The channels and the welded on plates are 1/8" material.
-the channels are 57 1/4" long then the ends are welded on giving a total length of 57 1/2"
-the end vertical pipes are tight against the channel and the end piece.
-the centre vertical pipe is tight against the channel.
-the holes through the channels by the vertical pipes are 3/8". These are for the bolts that hold the bow assembly onto the box.
-the centre holes are in the centre of the 2" wide horizontal plate in line with the vertical pipes and are 3/4" in from the side of the channel.
-the end holes are 1 1/4" from the end of the channel and 3/4" in from the side of the channel.
-the footman loops are 2 3/4" between centres of the bolts. The footman loops are riveted in place. The inside rivet holes are 12 3/4" apart and centred on the centre vertical pipe.
-those little holes along the sides of the channel are threaded for 1/4" NC bolts. One is centred on the middle vertical pipe and the rest are spaced every 7"
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1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5
1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box
1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box
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-the pipes are 3/4" plumbing pipes with an OD of1 1/8"
-the vertical pipes are 21 1/2" from the bottom end to the start of the bend at the top edge of the horizontal pipes.
-the vertical pipes protrude through the bottom of the channel 3/4"
-the end pipes are threaded 3/4" pipe thread below the channels.
-the bends on the bows are 6" radius on the long side of the pipe.
-the centre bow in the pipes is 3/4" above straight.
-the angle braces are 13 1'2" on the long side
-the pictures show how the horizontal pipes are made.
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Nice pics of the frame . It would be quite a heavy thing being made from plumbers pipe .

1 & 1/8 "is a unusual size pipe . 3/4"plumbers pipe here has a OD of 1" Mike
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