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Old 19-07-13, 20:25
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Last year Sean (Snowtractor on this board) offered me the the chance to acquire the mkll Penguin he had recovered from BC a number of years ago. Realizing he had too many projects lined up, along with a young family, he wanted to see something done with it. I also have a fairly long line-up of vehicles, and initially turned him down. But after mulling it over a few weeks I decided I had to have it. Sean only asked for right of first refusal if one day I decided it had to go.

These were converted from mk1 armoured Snowmobiles, although there is very little left armoured on it. After ex Eskimo, it was decided that while the mk1 was about as good an all terrain snowmobile as could be hoped for, it lacked in the creature comfort of a cab. So the snowmobiles ended up being modified either at the end of the war, or just afterwards, by the removal of the armour and the installation of an airplane type aluminum cab. They were renamed the Penguin Mk2. A number of photos on the internet show these as mk3s, including one at the Cdn War Museum, and a photo of one at the Bombardier museum. The true mk3s that I have seen photos of were quite a bit different. I'll post some photos from various DND pubs later today with DND photos of the mk2.

Below are some photos of it as it arrived:
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Old 19-07-13, 20:34
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When Sean delivered it last week, he had hoped the mother racoon had come back the night before for her litter. Turns out she had not, but rather she had come back for a trip to Shilo. After being constantly bugged for visits for the next couple of days, including by my ferocious dog, they apparently decided it was time to move on. I spotted a young ball of raccoon run over on the highway nearby, so it looks like they headed west.

Anyway, with the racoons gone, I decided to try and recover any markings that I could find. The vehicle had been painted yellow overall, but the Khaki paint could still be seen in areas where the paint had peeled, as well as the lower suspension. This was an ambulance, so had numerous red crosses on all four sides.

I spotted some brushed on paint towards the rear of the left side, and sanding brought up the DND number: 95-391. There were few enough of these vehicles made that eventually I hope to spot a photo of it in service.

On the front, the remnants of the command shield could be seen. Some careful sanding on the little bit of remaining shield came up with green, so this vehicle had likely belonged to Western Command at some point.

On the other side, I found the unit marking of "18 Coy" over a square of blue over yellow, diagonally divided.

Here are some shots of the finds:
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Old 19-07-13, 20:38
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So today I decided to invest 3 quarts of paint and a couple of hours to making it look more presentable in the lineup of projects waiting. Nice thing with any army vehicle......they don't have to be perfect. This is just to help preserve everything as well as to maintain peace with the neighbors until I find parts sources needed to restore it.
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Old 19-07-13, 20:51
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While the paint was drying, I took a foray into the belly of the beast. Raccoon turds abound, so I must use caution in there.

In a survey of racoons in North America, the vast majority of them have Raccoon ringworm. A single ounce of raccoon fecal matter can have one million eggs in it. Ingestion by other than a raccoon becomes a serious matter as the larvae attack the host body looking for a raccoon, or else escape. They attack the central nervous system, the eyes,the brain, or leave rashes where they eventually leave the host body.

For more on this important subject check out Wikopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baylisascaris

I will decontaminate the vehicle before working any further on it. However, I held my breath and got a few interior shots.

The vehicle was reported to Sean as having a thrown rod on the cadillac 346 flathead 8. I am on the search for one of these, should anyone come across a spare in decent shape. I would prefer the military engine, although I must do more research on this before I get too hasty and buy the wrong motor.

Interesting on the vehicle is that it has most of it's DND marked 1944/45 run flat tires remaining in good shape. They are 4:50 X16 made by goodyear. A search on google showed them to be starting to get harder to find, but substitutes can include the 16" hideaspares, or motorcycle tires. I will likely get them foam filled, so I am not dealing with flats in the middle of a Manitoba Winter.
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Old 20-07-13, 01:20
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In the mid 70s there were 3 or 4 of them. OD colored, in a scrap yard in ST Hyacinte....... I believe that scrap yard was the precursor to Sails store now... Only the top hatch was opened but we did crawl inside...... they also had 6 or 7 1941/42 dark blue Packard CLipper staff cars with USA marking.... apparently originating from a US based closing in Labrador ..

I remember looking at the Penguin engine with very squarish flat heads not rounded like a Ford...... had always assumed that Cadillac had ONLY overhead valves
V8 engines...... all been turned into Honda bumpers by now.

Strange to see they were using CMP seats....?

The yard was huge and you had to be escorted to the various areas of interest. The old gentlemen who would escort us was crippled with polio and rode a blue motorcycle with a side car..... and we would have to run behind him....and the yard was big.... we would go by piles of engines...piles of axles...piles of radiators...... I think he rather enjoyed seeing us out of breadth..... only thing I ever bought from him was the rear suspension of a WC 61 .... he had tons of them and they were fabricating trailers with the rear suspension for construction companies.


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Old 20-07-13, 01:38
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Rob.

Would that motor be the same block as used in the Stuarts?


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Old 20-07-13, 04:55
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Default Penguin II 95-391

Rob:

Here is an image of your vehicle taken 63 years ago on Exercise Sun Dog I.

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Old 20-07-13, 05:17
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Your vehicle was the only Ambulance Penguin on Exercise Sundog I. It is recorded as having broke down on 9 March 1950 which forced the MO to temporarily use another vehicle to extricate some casualties.

The Penguin was repaired but broke down again the next day on a move to Cape Churchill.

Your vehicle was also used in a film which was shot on 13 March showing the plasma arrangements inside the vehicle.
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Old 20-07-13, 05:28
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Is that a racoon's face just above the track, below the back of the red cross?
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Old 20-07-13, 05:50
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Possibly it is the same motor, or very similar. I think the tank engines had a generator running out the back end of the motor, where this one, I believe, had the generator up top at the engine front.

Here is a link to one, new out of the crate, for sale on the UK craigslist. Wrong side of the pond, or I would be on that tomorrow: http://edinburgh.craigslist.co.uk/ptd/3895747649.html
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Old 20-07-13, 05:53
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Wow Ed, you have certainly hit the jackpot for me. I'll be outside tomorrow painting the red crosses back in their spots. I could see them under the yellow paint, but did not know if they were there on the olive drab, or if they were over the later yellow.

What was the name of the film?
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Old 20-07-13, 13:08
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Rob,

What a great vehicle, I had always wondered what happened to the Armoured Snowmobiles. Do you have the tracks for it or will you be making them?

The primary WW2 use of Cadillac V8s was Stuart tanks (series 42) and Chaffee and LVT3 (series 44). I believe that the core engine is identical but the 44s have a drive shaft with universal joints threaded through under the inlet manifold. This is to drive the fans on a chaffee. The LVT3 inherrited this arrangement and I would expect that the Armoured Snowmobile / Penguin did too. The Hydramatic gearbox used in Stuart had a reverse gear but the ones used in Chaffee and I believe LVT3 did not have a reverse gear, this was done in the 2f + 2r transfer box. This engine was also used in infantry landing craft but presumably marineised to some degree. One of the nice things with these engines is that the exhaust manifold was black vitreous enameled and bolted on with stainless bolts - Cadillac had their standards to uphold !

I love the "spot the racoon" side to this thread, what happened to the photo of them looking out of the road drain? From a British perspective they are just cute!

Really looking forward to the you being able to get into the restoration of this machine and posting more photos - thanks for going public.

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Old 20-07-13, 14:41
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The tracks are coming in the next day or two.

Thanks for the explanation of the Cadillac powerplants. I find that on a new project like this, it is best to let it sit a year or two while parts are found and knowledge is gained. It saves having to un-do well-intentioned but misguided restoration efforts.

One of the few pieces of actual armour that remains is the front glacis plate. It bears the same chisel marks as the Bren carrier armour.

Tell you what, check out and secure that engine and I will give you 10....no, make that twenty racoons. You can release them and they will quickly populate all of the UK with cuteness. Your cat food companies will love you for this....they have insatiable appetites.

No idea why Micheal's raccoon posting is gone. But just for you David, here is the source: http://thechive.com/2008/12/06/world...ons-40-photos/

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Old 20-07-13, 16:23
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The engine you have posted here Rob as being on the wrong side of the pond may be obtainale if you are patient and look for the right guys.
I know there are others here on the Forum that send a container every once in a while over to Canada from the UK.
Getting your hands on what you need, even if it has to sit in storage at someones place in the UK is not so bad, especialy if you have time to wait.
My e-halftrack fenders came over that way from Holland. I think they saw more miles over a couple years, hitching rides from place to place until they ended up over here finally.
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Old 20-07-13, 16:47
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"Is that a racoon's face just above the track, below the back of the red cross?"
Hmmmmmm .... I thought so too.
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Old 20-07-13, 18:26
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What you need is someone who is 30 miles from Edinburgh, interested in snow stuff, and has somewhere to store it.

Oh wait, that would be me ...

Let me know if you want to buy it and just get the seller to store it or me to hang on it it till you can arrange shipping. I don't have heavy lifting facilities, but I do have storage and I'm sure I could borrow a trailer or empty one of mine.

I can even throw in the two chairs and sleeping bag that Sean left here last time he was at Beltring.

Erm ... let me know fairly sharpish in case he takes an offer on it, especially if you are NOT interested.

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Old 21-07-13, 02:17
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Very nice machine Rob ! Nice to see one of Mr Bombardier's snow machines saved. Always wondered what size of cross tube each set of boggies pivot on,must be pretty stout as they are not supported by an outer rail like the muskeg,which came later. Wheel bearings were the small type,and the axle stubs are pretty easy to bend ,they were upgraded to larger bearings and axles around 1960 on his other designs.
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Old 21-07-13, 06:14
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I have sent you a PM about that engine. If all the wheels and gears fall into place, it might just be doable. What a great site to have guys all over the world with similar interests and willing to help each other out.

Micheal: I think you had better get some more hobbies. Way too much time on your hands. I didn't actually even notice the racoon face when you emailed me that photo. I forwarded it to Derk and he mentioned it while we were on the phone. I think I was just mesmerized looking at that DND number on the side. Unbelievable.

I was doing a little math with Derk, and by the time I secure that engine and get it here, then buy the 18 tires to re-rubber this thing (that included 2 spares for which I must find rims yet) then buy new rubber banding for the track, then .......

So I have decided not to do anymore math, but just tackle the issues one at a time.
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Old 21-07-13, 06:35
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Rob.

The wheel and tire assemblies on the Penguin look a lot like the same set up used by Bombardier on their larger snowmobiles that the commercial fisherman are still using on the lakes in the winter. I recall a number of vehicle boneyards up along the way to the old bombing and gunnery range with a number of stripped Bombardiers sitting about. Might be worth your while to check with some of the guys up that way working with that equipment. If the wheel assys match up, they may be able to point you in the right direction for parts.

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Old 21-07-13, 06:55
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I do believe the roadwheels are the same as the commercial Bombardiers.

I assume you are talking about Langruth, and the Sandy Bay area. I was just through there a few weeks ago looking for something else. Plenty of stripped vehicles alright, and every yard seemed to have at a minimum 2 burned out vehicles. Never noticed any Bombardiers, but then again I was looking for an MLVW at the time.
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Old 21-07-13, 14:17
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After being constantly bugged for visits for the next couple of days, including by my ferocious dog, they apparently decided it was time to move on. I spotted a young ball of raccoon run over on the highway nearby, so it looks like they headed west.
For those who may have been concerned, I have an update regarding the above statement. I stopped on the highway yesterday to check on the situation, and am happy to report to all those who seem to think they love raccoons, that the cadaver on the road turned out to be a very young skunk, rather than a raccoon. Good news for the raccoon family, although not so good news for the skunk family.

On other subjects, I have sent an email to the seller of the Cadillac motor and will now await a reply.
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Old 21-07-13, 14:40
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Are Racoons better or worse than Skunks? Obviously the Racoon can make you dead, and the Skunk can make you wish you were dead. Do either of them have pluses?

On another note,I have to wonder why a Canadian built vehicle, of the day, was named after a Ratite, who's natural range was never north of the equator.
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Old 21-07-13, 15:04
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I have to wonder why a Canadian built vehicle, of the day, was named after a Ratite, who's natural range was never north of the equator.
See here http://www.forumsforums.com/3_9/showthread.php?t=46773 for another snow RAT. In this case, Remote Articulated Tractor, made by Canadair which has since been swallowed by Bombardier.
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Old 21-07-13, 15:20
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Are Racoons better or worse than Skunks? Obviously the Racoon can make you dead, and the Skunk can make you wish you were dead. Do either of them have pluses?

On another note,I have to wonder why a Canadian built vehicle, of the day, was named after a Ratite, who's natural range was never north of the equator.
Actually, I'll take the raccoon over the skunk any day. Both do get rabies in this area, but more-so the skunks.

I think back to when Gordon Falk and I were in Northern Ontario recovering Bren carrier bits. The skunks would come in the evening to our campsite, and take whatever they wanted with impunity. Gordon and I had been "tree'd" in the back of the pick-up box while the skunks hunted for the baloney sandwhiches we had just made. We held the lantern over the edge of the truck to see what they were up to, and the brighter the light got on the skunks, the higher their tails went.

If you shoot a raccoon, they bleed and die. If you shoot a skunk, it's muscles relax and it lets go. The area will stink for the next two weeks.

I'll take the raccoons over the skunks any day.
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Old 21-07-13, 15:48
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Rob.

A few other areas worth looking into for the larger Bombardier snowmobile are St. Laurent and Gimli. Large commercial fishing operations in both areas. Also, there used to be a farm implement dealer on the north of the Trans Canada at Elie who sold a number of used Bombardiers a few years back. Think he also wheeled and dealed in Argos around the same time. Any Bombardiers you find would be worth a closer inspection. I would not be at all surprised to find a few original military contract vehicles made it into the fishing industry and may still be out there. Bodies would be easy to restore and the power plant was the trusty Ford flathead V8.

Lynn.

I have always wondered why the Canadian Military never used the name 'Raccoon' for any of it's vehicles. The little buggers are extremely resourceful, can go anywhere and can get into absolutely anything they set their mind to. There was a show on the National Geographic Channel a couple of years back about the racoon population in Toronto, Ontario. Wildlife experts claimed there were half as many racoons living in greater Toronto as people. So when you think about it, the name 'Racoon' would be a great name for a Recce or Commando vehicle.

Since fate has already named Rob's new toy the 'Penguin' (indeed odd for Canada), perhaps he should come up with a name for it. "Happy Feet" perhaps. Or how about "Chilly Willy"?

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Since fate has already named Rob's new toy the 'Penguin' (indeed odd for Canada), perhaps he should come up with a name for it. "Happy Feet" perhaps. Or how about "Chilly Willy"?

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I think I will stick with "Penguin Mk2 Ambulance".

That is Luke's that you are talking about in Elie. I haven't seen any of the large snow vehicles there in a long time. I did stop there years ago for a can-am 250 part and sure enough they had it on the shelf.
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Old 21-07-13, 16:09
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Back to the raccoons...

Two stories. Firstly, I know of a fellow collector/supply guy who is in our hobby that got tangled up with a raccoon out in one of his storage trailers. while searching for a part in a dimly lit trailer, he reached up to a top shelf where, lo and behold a very pissed off raccoon was hiding out. It went up one side of him and down the other and during the process bit him. A trip to the hospital and some rabies shots...not nice.

Secondly, pertaining to the abilities of these creatures. I was camping in N Ontario one time and did my best to raccoon proff my campsite.
I went so far as to set the seat of the picnic table on top of my cooler so the weight of the table would hold my cooler in place to keep the coons from helping themselves.
In the mddle of the night I heard some noise outside the tent so got up with flashlight in hand to see what was going on. I could not believe my eyes when I saw a raccoon on his hind legs, forelegs grasped around the handle of my cooler trying his hardest to pull my cooler from under the pcnic table seat!
They are a pain but they are smart. Even more so, they are usually not timid of humans neither which makes the risks associated with them even greater.

Sorry to hijack your post Rob.
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I have tried to amend the title of the thread to "Penguin mkll / Canadian Raccoons, but I think a moderator would have to do that. I can only change the title of the first post.

I have said it for years....it is not unusual for any thread on MLU to meander through various topics. I think sometimes that is what keeps this forum so interesting and at times hilarious.
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I am headed to Gimli right now for the day and will use my Icelandic family connections to see if there are any Bombardier parts around to pick from.
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In the developed spirit of this thread, keep an eye out for raccoons as well.
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