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Old 20-01-21, 08:06
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Default Looking for a CFTO - M38A1 CDN windshield washer

As the title says, does anyone have the CFTO that added the windshield washer to M38A1 CDN and CDN 2’s?

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Old 20-01-21, 13:39
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The washer I remember was commercial parts with a vinyl bag. The pump was a squirt plunger pump on the dash. It was/is brittle white plastic that was rather unreliable at the best of times. There were rubber hose(s?) from a clear bag hanging on two hook up front against an inside fender wall. Combining weak washer force, pathetic flow, and vacuum wipers is a very bad combination for a safe (and defensible) driving experience.

My suggestion is a small in-line 24v pump with a discrete dash panel flip switch.
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Old 20-01-21, 14:03
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The CFTO is not in the C30-100 series where the Jeep mods would normally be found. Rather it was a modification in the C30-010 series, which was more general for the SMPs, and that particular modification covered the Jeep, the 3/4, the old deuce and the 5 ton if I remember correctly.

I'll have a look at my holdings and see if I have it, but I don't have all the C30-010 series...just smatterings of them.

It was the same kit supplied for all the M-series, held under a Cdn NSN.
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Old 20-01-21, 16:39
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Rick: I don't have the CFTO, but if Rob isn't able to locate it, I can help by providing actual measurements, locations etc if needed.

I have seen two different reservoir types for the washer fluid: the bag style, and a cylindrical rigid plastic tank. Otherwise, to my knowledge the remainder of the components are the same. With M38A1's I have also seen mainly 2 variations of where the squirt nozzles are located on the hood or cowl. It will be interesting to see what the CFTO specifies.

I suppose the performance of the squirt pump is subject to a lot of variability as noted by Terry, but the ones I have had work very well in terms of pumping out a strong, full stream with each pump. If not aimed correctly, the stream will shoot right over the top of the windshield. Practical performance however, considering the near vertical windshield and the usual performance of the vacuum wipers, isn't exactly what you get in your average modern car.
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Old 21-01-21, 00:41
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Thank you, I purchased the kit years ago. It carries Trico part number AWL8-1AL with a NSN of 2540-21-xxxx-6085 (where the x’s are unreadable). It was packed by Mil-quip in 1985. The squirter nozzle is the style that mounts to the cowl.
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Old 21-01-21, 02:29
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Thank you, I purchased the kit years ago. It carries Trico part number AWL8-1AL with a NSN of 2540-21-xxxx-6085 (where the x’s are unreadable). It was packed by Mil-quip in 1985. The squirter nozzle is the style that mounts to the cowl.
That looks like the plastic one I had that broke.
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Old 21-01-21, 15:43
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Default Trico washer kit

I did some Goofle searching with the company name and various key words. The manually operated pumps don't seem to be a thing anymore. Lots of generic offerings for electrically driven one though.

Maybe Trico has a similar generic one in the catalogues, but named something else?
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Old 21-01-21, 21:08
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For reference; here is an example of the rigid plastic fluid reservoir. I estimate the capacity to be approximately one liter, maybe a bit more.
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Old 22-01-21, 05:05
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Default washer fluid

Partially relevant - washer fluid used to be issued in 1 qt bottles of concentrate, not large ready to use jugs. I remember my father coming home from some weekend in the reserves, and having these small bottles for the car.
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Old 22-01-21, 05:36
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I have never seen the plastic bottle that Wayne shows. I suspect it may have been a local item. I have seen some Jeeps that had a foot valve that powered the washer.....but not widespread and I certainly never saw a CFTO about them so again possibly something that was local purchase.
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Old 23-01-21, 02:31
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The most thorough windshield washer thread available. I should note that these are covid times and some of us may have extra time!

Item number 4 is a hard plastic grommet, I assume intended for the large diameter suction hose as it passes through the firewall.

Item number 6 is a plastic debris screen/ strainer.

Also of note is that the inlet suction hose is a larger diameter than the outlet pressure hose

I have attached a mock up of the assembled parts.
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Old 25-01-21, 19:10
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Default windshield wiper fluid bottle

I have both the bag and the bottle on my M38a1.

My M38A1 was initially at Petawawa, then after it was rebuild in Montreal, it was sent to Kingston.

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Old 26-01-21, 01:25
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Hi Eric, could you please post a picture of the mounting bracket for the bag?
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Old 29-01-21, 23:10
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Default washer bag bracket

Here is a photo of the bracket.

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