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Old 10-07-11, 00:10
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Default m2/m3 registered for road use?

Does anyone have or know of a WW2 m2 or m3 half track in Canada registered for road use? Looking to see if i can do it
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Old 11-07-11, 08:09
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We have a couple registered here in B.C.

My email dt969b@gmail.com
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Old 11-07-11, 15:04
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Precisely the main reason that I sold my M9A1 International HT.
Couldn't road register it nor find insurance coverage. Armour is great but very limited when all you can do is trailer it to a show and it stays put.
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Old 11-07-11, 16:02
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I plan on using mine on the farm for rides instead of the usual "hay ride"
Would be nice if i could plate it, if not maybe use it as a farm machine and follow the rules for them on the roads for parades etc lol
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Old 11-07-11, 18:47
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I've been trying the farm vehicle route so far for my carrier. Helps to display a slow moving vehicle sign. In BC, technically I'm breaking the law, as I'm not a bonafide farmer, and not using it for farm related work. Also, if you are trying that in a town 30 kms away from your farm, might be difficult to convince the RCMP that you are still doing farm work. With that said, the only questions I ever get from the local RCMP is "What is that thing?" "How fast can it go" and "Can I get a ride?"
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Old 01-01-12, 16:18
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Hans, Where abouts in Bc do you reside?
"Can I get a ride" hah!
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Old 01-01-12, 20:48
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There are others who can address this but here is my interpretation of where your headed based on my lengthy dealings with MTO and OPP:-

1 "Farm vehicle", in Ontario they are not registered. They carry a slow moving vehicle sign which is indicative of traveling at less than 40 kmh. Insurance is through the "property" or "farm" as part of Liability. To be viewed as an "Implement of husbandry" (highway traffic act wordage) there has to be a connection to the land. See notes below

2 To register it for the road is sketchy, I am not going to counsel you to break the law but all I will say is that it is a partial track laying vehicle for which there is a weight limit (IIRC around a ton and a half). There is no split between steel or rubber track. Whether you put your cards all on the table when you register things is up to you. Some clots will say "I have a big heavy ex army tank like thingy and I want to register it" others will say " i would like to register my "1945 White truck" and cut it short there. Can you see the difference?

3 If you talk to Lant Insurance and speak in soft dulcit tones you may well get insured.

Notes:-

A half track was made for road usage with lighting etc fully compliant at the time of manufacture.

Rubber tracks could be mistaken for rubber wheels

"Implement of Husbandry", we have 2 Kawasaki Mules and are a registered and legitimate farm carrying out farming, tractors, crops etc etc. If we take the mule on the road we are illegal with SMV sign and no ATV plate. Mule must be plated as ATV and insured to be on the road. To cross the road (we have farm land split by public highway) we must comply as stated and wear helmets and wear seatbealts as fitted. If not, shut it off and push it across the road.

The mule may not travel down the side of the highway even if the municipality allows ATVs to do so because it is NOT an atv under HTA as the definition is "to sit atride the machine".

We have decided not to go toe to toe with MTO and OPP even though loaded with baler twine and tools we do "get around" but do so by coating it with invisibilium . . .

Feel free to ask more questions but remember we are in the public domain and others may be reading what you write.

I am well up for any debate on MTO related issues anytime


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Old 01-01-12, 23:34
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In the Manitoba regulations, it says plain and clear that a tracked vehicle cannot be registered for highway use. Kind of turns it all into a very short discussion in these parts.
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Old 02-01-12, 03:47
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Default driving on ont hwys

Here was the first one of many that I drove on Number 7 highway
The m20 had about 1200 miles put on on Ontario hwys before it was sold
Just don`t be silly
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Old 02-01-12, 04:51
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Stew,

you have very nicely and succinctly proven the points I have made.

Case closed, lets move on kids

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