High capacity magazine question

[Dave Block]

I'm too cheap to consult a real lawyer on this (& they probably wouldn't know anyway) so I'll toss it out to the experts here. Is it legal for me to purchase/own an original unmodified high-capacity magazine (i.e. Bren, MP-40, etc.) if I do not possess the weapon itself or have access to same? I have the opportunity to purchase some original, unmodified magazines & don't want to put my registered weapons in jeopardy, nor do I want to destroy a potential collector's item.

TIA, Dave

[sapper740]

Originally posted by Dave Block
I'm too cheap to consult a real lawyer on this (& they probably wouldn't know anyway) so I'll toss it out to the experts here. Is it legal for me to purchase/own an original unmodified high-capacity magazine (i.e. Bren, MP-40, etc.) if I do not possess the weapon itself or have access to same? I have the opportunity to purchase some original, unmodified magazines & don't want to put my registered weapons in jeopardy, nor do I want to destroy a potential collector's item.

TIA, Dave

Un-modified high capacity detachable box magazines for any centre-fire firearm are in and of themselves prohibited weapons regardless of whether you own the firearm or not.

[Dave Block]

I'll just admire them from afar and save myself money + probable headaches. I'm going out on a limb here and admitting I do legally possess a Mauser 'Broomhandle' 7.62mm purchased & registered back in the 70's. I have to assume the 10 round integral magazine is grandfathered. There's no way I'm altering it, that's like cancelling a 1 penny upside down black! I'd sooner sell it (legally) south of the border than have it mutilated!

Heavy sigh, Dave

[rob love]

The magic numbers are 5 round capacity for center fire semi automatic longarms (whether they are restricted or non-restricted) and 10 round capacity for handguns. There are some exemptions to this; certain "historic" magazines such as Bren 100 round drum mag, machine gun belts if they were made for a pre-45 gun, and luger drum mags along with some others.
So you can have a 100 round Bren drum, but you can't have a 30 round magazine unless it has been pinned to 5 rounds. Which is a moot anomaly here since you can't get a permit to take the Bren to the range anyway in Canada.
Internal magazines for rifles and shotguns also fall under these capacities. So a 41 Johnson rifle has to be blocked to 5. A M1 garand is specifically exempt, and can hold 8 rounds.

I like my semi-auto, non restricted M1919. I use the 250 round belts, and they are exempt under these rediculous laws.

[Dave Block]

Where would a 1914 DWM artillery luger with plank stock c/w leather holster and 32 round snail-drum magazine fit? The pistol itself is registered (with 8 round mag) but the rest wasn't brought to the authorities attention at the time. I'm not admitting to anything personally here but will gladly show them where to dig if they come banging at the door (I need a new sump-pump hole in the basement).

Cheers, Dave

[rob love]

The 32 round drum magazine is exempt from the cartridge limitations. They are very desirable, and will command $800-1000 these days. The artillery Luger is also a desirable piece, and depending on condition, can be worth from $1000 to $2500. I'm not sure of the stock's value, but it is also a nice item.
There is no registration of the drum magazine, nor do you have to list it with the luger for registraton purposes.

[sapper740]

Originally posted by Dave Block
I'll just admire them from afar and save myself money + probable headaches. I'm going out on a limb here and admitting I do legally possess a Mauser 'Broomhandle' 7.62mm purchased & registered back in the 70's. I have to assume the 10 round integral magazine is grandfathered. There's no way I'm altering it, that's like cancelling a 1 penny upside down black! I'd sooner sell it (legally) south of the border than have it mutilated!

Heavy sigh, Dave

Dave, anytime you have something you want (or need) to get rid of, I'm here for ya Buddy!

[Alex Blair (RIP)]

Originally posted by Dave Block
I'll just admire them from afar and save myself money + probable headaches. I'm going out on a limb here and admitting I do legally possess a Mauser 'Broomhandle' 7.62mm purchased & registered back in the 70's. I have to assume the 10 round integral magazine is grandfathered. There's no way I'm altering it, that's like cancelling a 1 penny upside down black! I'd sooner sell it (legally) south of the border than have it mutilated!

Heavy sigh, Dave

Hi Dave..
I also had a broom handle mauser that I picked up in the '60's but mine was in 7.63MM caliber...
It was a small (I called "coke bottle" )shaped round that came with 10 round stripper clips that top loaded ....

[sapper740]

Originally posted by Alex Blair
Hi Dave..
I also had a broom handle mauser that I picked up in the '60's but mine was in 7.63MM caliber...
It was a small (I called "coke bottle" )shaped round that came with 10 round stripper clips that top loaded ....

Like so:

Many years ago my Grandfather owned a Schnellfeurpistole but donated it to a museum as none of his grandchildren (me included) were grandfathered for Full Auto, so all I got was a lousy box of ammo!

[sapper740]

Originally posted by sapper740
Like so:

Many years ago my Grandfather owned a Schnellfeurpistole but donated it to a museum as none of his grandchildren (me included) were grandfathered for Full Auto, so all I got was a lousy box of ammo!

the box reads:

Patronen No. 403 mit Theilmantelgeschossen fur die MAUSER SELBSTLADE-PISTOLE. Cal.7,63
Deutsche Waffen- und Munitionsfabriken
Karlsruhe

[Alex Blair (RIP)]

Originally posted by sapper740
the box reads:

Patronen No. 403 mit Theilmantelgeschossen fur die MAUSER SELBSTLADE-PISTOLE. Cal.7,63
Deutsche Waffen- und Munitionsfabriken
Karlsruhe

Hi Sapper..
That's the good stuff..
The gun itself was a hard exercise to strip and clean..Two screws holding the grips on were the easy part..
But it was fun to shoot..and not bad for accuracy..
Nice to see again after 35 years...
Ahhh ...the memories..

[Dave Block]

An absolute marvel of engineering. The only screws on the piece were for the grips, everything else just slips/clicks into place like a mechanical jigsaw puzzle. BTW, it is, of course, in 7.63. I'd been using surplus Russian 7.62 and had a bit of a mind-fart in my first post. I can still remember the look on the Firearms Registrar's face when I first brought it in (sans wooden holster/stock). We ended up with another five cops in the room, passing it back and forth, trying to figure out how it worked.

Thanks for all the info. Cheers, Dave

[sniper762]

there are no atf regulations limiting magazine capacity. maybe state regs like communist california.