Shootings

[motto]

There was quite a bit of news coverage here yesterday morning about an Austrian hunter that had lost the plot and killed three police officers and a paramedic.
Last reports showed armoured vehicles being brought in to assist in the siege of the offenders hunting lodge then all went quiet, no further reports.
Can somebody please inform me as to the outcome?

David

[Richard Farrant]

David,
Just seen this;
http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ody-found-farm

[motto]

Thanks Richard. It seems the armour played no part in the result.
It would be vastly better if these creeps killed themselves at the beginning instead of going on to create the trauma that they do. If they topped themselves at the start you would have to feel pity for them but through their actions they end up only worthy of contempt.
I refer not only to the pain and suffering of victims, families etc but inevitably these events provide justification for further restrictions on our freedoms which are rapidly becoming a distant memory.

David

[maple_leaf_eh]

Interesting that multicides now escalate to police armoured vehicles fairly quickly.

A headline caught my eye last time I was in the US. The small city of Watertown, New York received a $600k 2008 year MRAP for their police department in some sort of cascade of surplus federal property to lower levels. There are three things in Watertown - retail destinations for crossborder Canadian shoppers, nearby US Army`s Fort Drum and the factory that makes those little green pinetree car air fresheners. What level of crime substantiates a full-on ambush protected vehicle?

I had a blunt internet agree-to-disagree discussion with a serving RCMP constable about whether the City of Saskatoon really needed a similar armoured response vehicle, when their officers are probably at greater risk from bad tires on the patrol cars.

That said, a few months ago the City of Montreal punched a hole in a barracaded house with a boom on their Cadillac Gage M100 A/C. Chuck in the teargas and manhandle everyone who emerged coughing and puking. In that circumstance things worked out safely for everyone.

[Marc Montgomery]

some citizens do not appreciate the "militarization" of the police... viz this item from just before Christmas *Dec 23 2013) from California

http://rt.com/usa/californians-outra...d-vehicle-689/

Meanwhile, Montreal police have acquired an armoured vehicle. I think (?) the Cadillac-gage mentioned by Terry is an SQ vehicle (quebec provincial police)

http://www.thespec.com/news-story/41...oured-vehicle/

meanwhile I get a bit irked when I see Canadian media talking about SWAT units.. although basically the same purpose , Canada has no such terminology, we have ERT
(emergency response team)

kinda like we have first nations reserves, US has reservations.
guard of honour, vs honor guard...etc etc etc

I once had to phone CBC Toronto and tell them that the young female reporter story on Remembrance day being broadcast nationally, was using TAPS and not LAST POST..amazingly the story had aired at couple of times, had obviously passed vetting, and nobody at CBC national news had noticed.....too much American cultural influence I guess
etc

[Tony Wheeler]

Originally Posted by guyvapeur

I have no problems with the police having access to armoured vehicles.

Nor do I, at least AVs are designed to apprehend CRIMINALS, as opposed to patrol cars preying on innocent motorists doing 3 kph over the limit on 6 lane freeways. That's about all our cops do over here, in between tazering and shooting the mentally ill.