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Old 18-06-17, 04:29
Phil Bristow Phil Bristow is offline
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My wife and I will be visiting the UK this September trying to fill in some gaps in our family histories.
We plan to visit Eastbourne where my late father was seriously wounded in a German air raid the night of August 9-10, 1942.
Private John Robert Bristow (Bob), served with No 9 Canadian Field Ambulance RCAMC and was working in the Orderly Room when the air raid struck.
8 of 11 men in his company were killed. The other 3 were seriously wounded, including my father.
I would like to visit the site if it still exists.
- What records are there of the Canadian base in Eastbourne in 1942?
- Are there any traces of it left?
- Where would I go to find details of the raid?
- Are there perchance any others who remember that fateful period?
Like so many others, my father didn't talk much about the war. I only learned about his wartime experiences when I stumbled upon a long letter he wrote to a friend in 1994 detailing his history.
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Old 18-06-17, 05:41
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Hello Phil.

Interesting topic. It is my understanding a good portion of the Eastbourne area was evacuated during the war due to the extensive German bombing of the area. A large number of Canadian Troops were stationed there leading up to D-Day, but they may not necessarily have been in a single 'Camp' location. Rather, I think they may have been billeted throughout the area.

You might want to try contacting the Eastbourne Local History Society with the information about your Dad that you have and they might be able to help.

Good luck and keep us posted.


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Old 18-06-17, 16:16
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Hi Phil

http://www.eastbournehistory.org.uk/

Good luck.

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Old 19-06-17, 03:50
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Thanks for your replies David & Darrell,
I'll follow through with the link to the Eastbourne Historic Society.
Dad mentioned being stationed at Nutfield Abbey in his letter.
He doesn't give the exact date of his deployment to Eastbourne, except that he was there when the raid occurred.
After my post yesterday, I discovered that a book was written in 2006 about Canadians in Eastbourne during WWII. That may be helpful as well.

I understand that Canadian military records are locked for 75 years after the war. That makes it 2020 before I can see my father's file and finally fill in the gaps he only refers to in his letter.

Phil
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Old 19-06-17, 04:50
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Phil. The 75 year rule only applies to general public release of the records.

You can apply for a copy of your Father's Army Service Records at any time, for a fee, since you are his Son. They keep dinking around with the rules, so I would suggest having a copy of your Father's Death Certificate, in case you are asked, and his Service Number will speed up the search immensely. You should be able to find all the current requirements on line.

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Old 19-06-17, 13:35
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Thank You for your good information David.
I've found the address on the Gov't of Canada website.
I've also found an updated copy of Canucks by the Sea through the excellent Eastbourne Historical Society.
I'll let you know how things turn out.
Phil
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Old 19-06-17, 23:48
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Funnily enough I grew up in Eastbourne. Your best bet is to contact (and visit) the Redoubt fortress military museum on the seafront. The museum covers local military history from the napoleonic era through to modern day, so they should be able to help.

It's also a fantastic museum, and napoleonic era fortress, to visit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastbourne_Redoubt

http://www.eastbournemuseums.co.uk

If you are in the area, Newhaven fort is a short drive and also well worth a visit.

http://www.newhavenfort.org.uk

Further away there's also Dover castle, including an underground hospital and the bunkers where the Dunkirk evacuation was planned and commanded.

http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/v.../things-to-do/

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Old 20-06-17, 10:20
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Canadian HQ was at Sheffield Park... not that far away.

I have photos of the Canadians at Sheffield Park, Brighton and other places along that coast... no idea if any are Eastbourne though.

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Old 22-06-17, 09:44
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The local paper (the Herald) has this more modern story:
http://www.eastbourneherald.co.uk/ne...-war-1-5821503

This indicates a date of August 11 1942 at 1am and either the newspaper may be able to look in the archives, or you may be able to find a copy of the original report in Eastbourne library.
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The Command HQ of 2nd Canadian Division, 1st Canadian Army, was located at Hawkhurst Court, Wisborough Green, near Billingshurst in West Sussex.
When taking my military vehicles down to Portsmouth over the years, I stop for a break on the village green there. Once, one of the locals came up and told me the story, explaining why the Canadian flag was flying on the green.
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Old 23-06-17, 03:28
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Thank You everyone for your helpful information.
We'll be staying a day in Deal where my mother's family came from and will visit Dover Castle.
Dad was with No 9 Canadian Field Ambulance RCAMC
He was assigned to HQ Company, but I don't know if that was in Canada, Nutfield Abbey or Eastbourne.
I'll follow up on Lauren's link to the newspaper report about the Aug 11/42 raid.
Looks like we'll be spending at least a day in Eastbourne.

Still no reply from the Historical Society about the book.
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Old 23-06-17, 04:32
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Default It notes the very raid my father was wounded in!

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Originally Posted by Lauren Child View Post
The local paper (the Herald) has this more modern story:
http://www.eastbourneherald.co.uk/ne...-war-1-5821503

This indicates a date of August 11 1942 at 1am and either the newspaper may be able to look in the archives, or you may be able to find a copy of the original report in Eastbourne library.
LAUREN,
I just found the article you refer to with a paragraph giving a detailed account of the Aug 11/42 raid. It ends with "...it is amazing that casualties were so light - apart from the eight Canadian soldiers killed in a shelter."
That is indeed the raid my father was in. He wrote that 8 of 11 men died when they jammed together in the dark at the steps leading down to the shelter. He was at the back of the group and seconds before the bomb hit, he got a strange feeling and dove against a shed 10-12 feet away. He miraculously survived with only a leg wound. It's moving to read the account so many years later.
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