unknown carrier

Ledsel · #1 30-08-07, 20:42

Does anyone know what year carrier had a rounded top engine hood? My father had one that he made a front end loader out of. I think he said one time that it was a 1938 model but I can't remember. I'm just wondering because I haven't seen one on this forum. They all seem to have the flat top over the engine. The rest of the carrier was the same as all the others, as far as I could tell as it was cut down already when I could remember. P.S. the hood was made of sheet metal. Sorry no pictures.

Keith Webb · #2 30-08-07, 21:08

The Lloyd had a rounded engine cover which was mounted in the rear of the vehicle.

Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP) · #3 30-08-07, 21:12

The only 'rounded engine hood' I know (aside from the Loyd, thank you, Keith!) was on the Canadian 2pdr carrier, but as far as I know, only one or two of them made it to the U.K., and it's unlikely that/those would have been sent to the continent (the sample was provided simply for evaluation purposes and the rest kept in Canada for 'airfield defence' after the Japanese threat emerged). Still...

Ledsel · #4 30-08-07, 22:22

Well this carrier was otherwise the same as a regular carrier. It deffinatly wasn't a loyd. The hull was the ordinary type. the only diference was the engine cover. As far as the side and rear armour I don't know as it was removed. He made a wing for his snow plow out of it so it must have had the full height armour. The front idlers were removed and the trac was shortend. The front section was cut off and flipped over to make a bucket out of it. You steered it from the rear by converting it to hydraulic brakes and using levers to operate them. It worked pretty good, we loaded a lot of gravel out of the farm pit with it. I wish I had photo's but I don't. A few fella's did that in those day's.P.S. This carrier was Canadian and was never overseas.

rob love · #5 30-08-07, 23:02

As Geoff mentioned, it was likely a 2 pdr carrier. The main telltale signes would be the socket over the radiator for the gun, and the stowage racks in the inside of the armour. Not sure how the stowage racks mounted, but perhaps there are holes on the fenderwhells indicating this.

ex-2 pdr carriers are relatively common here on the prairies for some reason.

Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP) · #6 30-08-07, 23:06

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Originally posted by Ledsel
P.S. This carrier was Canadian and was never overseas.

Sorry, had a blonde moment there for a minute...

I concur with Rob, it will have been a 2pdr carrier. Do you happen to remember I-beams running at an angle from the top of the division plate to the floor at the end of the engine compartment, one on each side of the engine? That's a big clue...

Eric Korhonen · #7 30-08-07, 23:36

Ledsel :
If you go look back in the carrier forum to page 14. July 11th there are oictures of the 2 pounder. Also is a picture of a rounded hood off of one , this may help you. I have a badly cut 2 pounder and the only way i could identify it was by the hood. I hope this helps you out.

Eric

Tony Smith · #8 31-08-07, 02:14

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Originally posted by Ledsel
Well this carrier was otherwise the same as a regular carrier. .......The front idlers were removed and the trac was shortend. The front section was cut off and flipped over to make a bucket out of it. You steered it from the rear by converting it to hydraulic brakes and using levers to operate them. ....

This description has an awfully familiar ring to it. Wasn't there a link to pic of a carrier in a similar configuration that was either in a museum or for sale? South America or somewhere?

Tony Smith · #9 31-08-07, 02:34

No,wasn't imagining it. See The Chaco Carrier

Ledsel · #10 31-08-07, 04:16

Now I know, This was a very common thing to do in the Sudbury area as I know of three that were made into loaders, one even has a home made backhoe on it. And another one just had the front gutted out and changed to rear steer for use when hunting. Just throw the moose in the front and away you go. Thank you very much for the info.

Ledsel · #11 31-08-07, 05:52

Thank's alot guy's . That's it, same hood with the patch. and yes those braces were there too. Another question solved by the forum.

Tony Smith · #12 31-08-07, 12:26

See, MLU has the Answers long before we even know what the Question might be.

Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP) · #13 31-08-07, 12:40

Quote:

Originally posted by Ledsel
Thank's alot guy's . That's it, same hood with the patch. and yes those braces were there too. Another question solved by the forum.

And you expected anything less? As Tony said, the REAL danger here is getting answers to questions you never WANTED to ask...

I almost got one of those carriers at a farm auction a few years' back. It was pretty much complete, sans a few smallish sections of armour gas-axed so the driver could actually see where he was going. The rest of it was there - good tracks, almost all bogies intact, the 2pdr pintle socket, engine cover complete, etc. Knowing the local crowd that was there, I figured it might go relatively cheaply, but one chappie stepped in and bid it through the roof, alas... we were the only two interested! If I had gotten it, it would have been restored and running long ago...

Somewhere I have pics of the wee beastie, I'll see if I can find them.