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Old 09-03-10, 01:28
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**UPDATE 11 August 2015**

The EDR Viewer as we knew it is no longer available. There is a basic version of the database which is very limited in what information it contains, and the age of the vehicles that it covers.





Hey Fellas,

There are a few of us who are able to access the DND EDR Viewer which provides CFR information. The only issue at this time is that as new vehicles come into the CF/DND, old CFR info is "overwritten", so, more or less daily, the info on older iron decreases.

With a minimum of having your CFR or Mfg Serial Number, we are able to find details about the Units/Regiments your MV served with, as well as some basic maintenance/mileage history. The more info you can provide (Stickers, TAC Signs, Numbers, the Base you think it may have come from) the better as sometimes it can be a VERY time consuming search if all you have is a Serial Number.

CFR/CAR Number info in the Database is limited to:
M38A1CDN2 (1967-68 version),
M38A1CDN3 (1971 version),
M151A2,
Iltis,
CJ-7, YJ,
M35, M36, MLVW,
CUCV or 5/4,
Ferret,
Artillery,
M100 and other Trailers.


There is no Data available for:
M38CDN,
M38A1CDN (1953 version),
M37, M43, M152 or other variants of the Dodge Power Wagon,
M135, M211.


If I haven't listed it above, just ask

I've attached an example of the information on my M151A2 as it appears in the EDR Viewer in the pics below, and what it looks like when I export it to Excel and then paste it into a post here.

CFR Information
CFR No 09195
CFR Year 1974
Serial No 43813
Actual ECC 121401
Authorized ECC 121401
NSN
ERN 30105
Holding Unit 0109
DA Unit 0109
Date Acquired 01-Jan-74
Cost 0
Alloc Code MD
Comm Suite
Current VMO DP356313 - 28-Aug-86
HN Date 02-Nov-87
Pending? No
Disposed? Yes
Disposal Date 02-Dec-87

Holding Unit History

As of 25-JAN-11

CFR No Departure Arrival HUIC Unit
09195* 25-Jul-86 01-Jan-74 2100* 1 SERVICE BATTALION

Modification History

As of 25-JAN-11

Modification History of CFR : 09195

Modification No Modification Complete Date Completed
30010000CF003* NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THIS MODIFICATION YES
30105000CF001* NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THIS MODIFICATION YES
30105000CF003* NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THIS MODIFICATION YES
30105000CF004* NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THIS MODIFICATION YES
30105000CF005* NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THIS MODIFICATION YES
30105000CF006* NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THIS MODIFICATION YES
30105000CF007* NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THIS MODIFICATION YES
30105000CF008* NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THIS MODIFICATION YES
30105000CF012* NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THIS MODIFICATION YES
30105000CF013* NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THIS MODIFICATION YES
30105000CF016* NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THIS MODIFICATION YES
30105000CF017* NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THIS MODIFICATION YES

Work Order Details

As of 25-JAN-11
CFR Number : 09195
Format Work Order Number SS Date Completed CIN HUIC Usage Qty Parts ($) Rebuild
6 L31188 07-Mar-83 782* 2100* 43053 1 114 NO
6 L22006 30-May-82 782* 2100* 41360 1 1 NO
6 L12257 06-Apr-81 782* 2100* 31101 1 163 NO
6 L11257 19-Mar-81 782* 2100* 31081 1 11 NO
6 L00802 26-Jul-79 782* 2100* 25751 1 19 NO
6 L04003 07-Oct-78 782* 2208* 0 1 0 NO
6 L00338 31-Aug-77 782* 2208* 0 1 0 NO
6 L00023 31-May-77 782* 2208* 0 1 0 NO


Thanks

Scotty B
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Old 09-03-10, 14:06
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Scotty, any chance that you can pull up more info on my M38A1 CDN2 than you were able to before, or are you still limited to the info you can access from the DND server? The truck's CFR is 67-08251 and previously the info you gave me was missing the NSN, purchase price etc.

Thanks, Peter Z.
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Old 09-03-10, 22:44
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Scotty, any chance that you can pull up more info on my M38A1 CDN2 than you were able to before, or are you still limited to the info you can access from the DND server? The truck's CFR is 67-08251 and previously the info you gave me was missing the NSN, purchase price etc.

Thanks, Peter Z.
Sadly, no I can't at the moment.

There are two databases. One for which I presume is the Transport folks, and the other better one, the Supply and Maintainers etc.

Since I have moved to Gagetown, I can no longer access the better EDR Viewer due to some software issues.

With the watered down database, the older the Vehicle, the less info shows up, ie, for an M38A1/M151A2 only the last VMO appears. With the Iltis, all of the VMO appear.

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Old 09-03-10, 14:07
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Scotty:

ECC=Equipment Configuration Code, n'est-ce pas?
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Old 09-03-10, 22:39
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Scotty:

ECC=Equipment Configuration Code, n'est-ce pas?
Ah yes... Fixed.
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Old 10-03-10, 22:07
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Hi,

I was wondering if anyone would be able to help me with the history of my Iltis. The serial number is BI01058688761.
Any information would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 12-03-10, 07:28
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Info for my M101CDN2 Trailer, please:
M101CDN2, Serial Number 0917, CFR 36221
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Old 12-03-10, 16:08
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Info for my M101CDN2 Trailer, please:
M101CDN2, Serial Number 0917, CFR 36221
CFR Information
CFR No 36221
CFR Year 1978
Serial No B21BB8K105651
Actual ECC 142103
Authorized ECC 142103
NSN
ERN 31534
Holding Unit 0100
DA Unit 0100
Date Acquired 01-Jan-78
Cost 0
Alloc Code MA
Comm Suite
Current VMO DP357501 - 03-Nov-86
HN Date 12-Mar-87
Pending? No
Disposed? Yes
Disposal Date 25-Feb-87

VMO History for CFR Number : 36221
VMO Type Pending To ECC To AC To HUIC To DA UIC
DP357501 - 03-Nov-86 REGUL No 142103 MA 0100 0100 Canadian Forces Base Halifax
DP355406 - 20-Jun-86 UPDAT No 142103 GR 0100 0100 Canadian Forces Base Halifax
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Old 12-03-10, 16:22
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Hang on. Looks like your CFR is wrong.
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Old 13-03-10, 06:09
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Hello Scotty

I would like the CFR and Hisotry of my latest aquisition if at all possible.

1995 Kawasaki KLR250 Vin JKALMD15SA080168.


Supposedly this unit came from CFB Shilo in MB as per the previous owner.

Ya I was playing in the snow today with it lol.


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Old 15-03-10, 20:30
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Hang on. Looks like your CFR is wrong.
1978 would have made it an M151 Trailer. There was no CFR pencilled under where the license plate used to be. Serial Number 0917.

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Hi,

I was wondering if anyone would be able to help me with the history of my Iltis. The serial number is BI01058688761.
Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers
Greg
CFR Information
CFR No 88761
CFR Year 1986
Serial No BI01-05-86-88761
Actual ECC 121501
Authorized ECC 121501
NSN 2320-21-895-3768
ERN 30111
Holding Unit 0107
DA Unit 0107
Date Acquired 25-Nov-86
Cost 26363
Alloc Code MB
Comm Suite
Current VMO DLE23839 - 16-Nov-05
HN Date 21-Oct-06
Pending? No
Disposed? Yes
Disposal Date 17-Nov-05

VMO History for CFR Number : 88761
VMO Type Pending To ECC To AC To HUIC To DA UIC
DLE23839 - 16-Nov-05 REGULAR No 121501 MB 0107 0107 Canadian Forces Base/Area Support Unit Petawawa
DLE25304 - 12-Mar-04 REGULAR No 121501 NX 0107 0107 Canadian Forces Base/Area Support Unit Petawawa
E02-0255 - 07-Jun-02 REGULAR No 121501 DX 3536 5006 The Queen's York Rangers (1st American Regiment) (RCAC)
E02-0212 - 23-May-02 REGULAR No 121501 DS 3525 3525 Land Force Central Area Training Centre Detachment
E02-0133 - 22-Mar-02 REGULAR No 121501 DX 3536 5006 The Queen's York Rangers (1st American Regiment) (RCAC)
E02-0062 - 13-Feb-02 REGULAR No 121501 DS 3830 3830 2 General Support Battalion
DLE26479 - 02-Apr-00 REGULAR No 121501 DX 3536 5006 The Queen's York Rangers (1st American Regiment) (RCAC)
DLE25351 - 13-Jan-00 REGULAR No 121501 NX 0107 0107 Canadian Forces Base/Area Support Unit Petawawa
E98-0008 - 27-Feb-98 N1368 No 121501 DX 3536 5006 The Queen's York Rangers (1st American Regiment) (RCAC)
DLE28766 - 02-Jan-98 N1368 No 121501 DX 3536 3658 32 Canadian Brigade Group Headquarters
DLE27563 - 15-Aug-97 REGUL No 121501 DX 3536 6248 TORONTO DISTRICT HEADQUARTERS
DLE27188 - 12-Jun-97 REGUL No 121501 DS 0113 0113 Canadian Forces Base Borden
F87-002 - 08-Jan-87 UPDAT No 121501 DX 0113 0113 Canadian Forces Base Borden
DP357625 - 12-Nov-86 INITI No 121501 BX 0113 0113 Canadian Forces Base Borden
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I was wondering if I could also get some information about my Iltis?
The VIN is BI01-02-85-86489
There is also AA5237 stenciled inside the rear passenger door but I suspect the doors may not be original to this vehicle.
Any information you may have is greatly appreciated.
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Old 08-04-10, 19:12
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...VIN is BI01-02-85-86489.
Rpoolie -

I can have a go at it (again) for you tomorrow. I had a quick look and there is a fair sized bit of info to be had. Saving the info so I can edit it all at home is todays computer problem. Hopefully this pos work computer will co-operate tomorrow........cheers,

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As you receive the requested information through the good graces of Craig and others, and you don't mind sharing this with the world, send me the info by PM and I will add it to the M38A1 database found at RamTank.ca
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Old 13-04-10, 16:47
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Hi,

Last year, I bought an iltis. I would like to know more about.

No.Id : BI02-03-86-88153

I am looking for the paint number to repaint it.

Thank you very much for your help and this forum is very helpfull.

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After reading all the requests for CFR numbers I feel a little intrusive. However It seems I have received more information and help from this forum in the last couple of months than my searching in over a year. I live in Connecticut, United States and bought a M38A1 which I believe is a CDN2.
It was purchased by the previous owner from Canada a couple of years ago. I am a member of the Connecticut Military Vehicle Collectors Inc of which I am proud to have been a past president. The chance to restore a Canadian jeep is exciting to me. All too many times I've seen the pratice of a restored USA jeep mounted with machine guns and Military Police markers. It would have you think every jeep was a gun jeep. So the chance to make an histortic Canadian jeep is exciting. I have been told the CFR numbers on it are wrong. The color is wrong and other marking are wrongand placement is wrong.
The number on it is 67-97211. I was told the number should be 67-07740
So I'll ask for as much info on this jeep as I can, so as I can make it back to the way it was equiped with the units it was in. Hopefully late 60s.

So here are the facts.
Data plate indicates the jeep was made NOV 67, Ser # is 7105-97211.
Vehicle has a SMG holder on the dash. Also has butt plate holder on the floor on the passenger side. Right side of vehicle has welded holes in the pattern and placement of a machine gun mount. Two more holes just forward of slave cable recepticle.e
That's it.
I wish to thank the people who have helped me in the past and and in the future.

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Old 28-04-10, 10:18
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This is the number off my pinkslip: CKL2461154766, first registration in Norway was 13. sept. 1996.

In addition i have some numbers from parts that came with the truck.

CFR/SER. number: 7626749
(it's kinda hard to make out, see for yourself)
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Old 28-04-10, 14:43
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nm190 -

Just copied what info there is on your 5/4. The numbers (28542/CKL2461154766) match and the info states it was located in Norway. Says it was disposed of in May 1997. I'll edit the info and post it tonight or tomorrow for you. How much trouble is it to get parts to maintain the truck? Did you get any of the manuals or many parts with it? Cheers,

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Old 29-04-10, 21:00
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Here is the information on your truck. Cheers,

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Old 29-04-10, 21:08
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Craig,

How far back can you trace a CFR number? Can you find the following:

54-82540 ?

Its a Ferret Scout car which would have been disposed of sometime in the early 80's...

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Old 29-04-10, 21:55
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BMills -

There is a record - or there was last year when I copied the lot of them. The only pertinent info I have now is it spent time in Valcartier, UIC 0106. I'll look in the morning to see if more info remains in the database. Cheers,

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Old 30-04-10, 19:12
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Just copied what info there is on your 5/4. The numbers (28542/CKL2461154766) match and the info states it was located in Norway. Says it was disposed of in May 1997. I'll edit the info and post it tonight or tomorrow for you. How much trouble is it to get parts to maintain the truck? Did you get any of the manuals or many parts with it? Cheers,

Craig
Amazing man, just amazing.
Thank you so much for all the help!

It's quite easy to get parts over here, the amcar-society in Norway is fairly big, we've had american collectors looking to scandinavia for cars they can't find in the US.
No manuals came with the truck (so if there are original army manuals in circulation, i'm interested!), what i did get was a heater and a cab for the truckbed, and soon the benches so...
Oh, and one original plate-rim with tyre.
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Old 01-05-10, 01:49
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This is the number off my pinkslip: CKL2461154766, first registration in Norway was 13. sept. 1996.

In addition i have some numbers from parts that came with the truck.

CFR/SER. number: 7626749
(it's kinda hard to make out, see for yourself)
The photo you show is of a condition and identity tag for a 24 volt alternator. The CFR in the tag could be for the truck that the alternator was either cannibalized from or possibly removed from and later repaired. It could also be the CFR of a truck the alt was ordered for.
Whichever way you look at it, that number is meaningless for your truck.
In another thread you showed the CFR spray painted onto the hood of your truck. That kind of thing was somewhat common, especially for trucks constantly on ex with the license plates covered over or removed for camouflage.

Edited to correct the info on the alternator: It is for the standard GM 12V 61 amp commercial alternator, and not for the 24V alt as I suggested in the above. Sorry.

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Old 01-05-10, 09:21
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The photo you show is of a condition and identity tag for a 24 volt alternator. The CFR in the tag could be for the truck that the alternator was either cannibalized from or possibly removed from and later repaired. It could also be the CFR of a truck the alt was ordered for.
Whichever way you look at it, that number is meaningless for your truck.
In another thread you showed the CFR spray painted onto the hood of your truck. That kind of thing was somewhat common, especially for trucks constantly on ex with the license plates covered over or removed for camouflage.
I see now, thanks.
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Old 01-05-10, 21:50
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Well, Dad and my brother enjoyed working my my 67 A1 with me, so this morning we went and bought another. CFR 67-08498 and serial number 97765. Delivered March 68. My other A1 is CFR 67-08479.

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BMills -

Well this is what info exists on that particular Ferret. Cheers,

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Old 02-05-10, 17:26
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This is the number off my pinkslip: CKL2461154766, first registration in Norway was 13. sept. 1996.

In addition i have some numbers from parts that came with the truck.

CFR/SER. number: 7626749
(it's kinda hard to make out, see for yourself)
Those 'rainbow' condition tags are a good document if you need to figure out what something is called. The UIC is a 4-digit code for a particular unit. The NATO Stock Number is self-explanitory. A parts list is your next acquisition.
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Old 30-04-10, 19:51
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Old 08-05-10, 01:43
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Hello to everyone,

I would like to know if somebody may help me find the history behind my new acquisition. I just bought a Bombardier Iltis.
The serial number is BI01118486116.

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