Marston airport runway mats.....

[Bob Carriere]

Not sure it belongs here.....but here goes....edit....MARSTON proper spelling...... also M2 mats.....

Very limited information on them and rather rare to find....


Seems to be two kind at least with the punched out holes.

The ones I have .....have provision to attach them end to end with female slots but can' finger out what kind of clip was used...... side ways attachment works only if they all line up and can't be staggered...... they have slots at both ends ........

The other type has NO slots for attachments at the ends and the training films on U-tube shows them all staggered for greater strength.

Only miniatures for models are listed on Ebay.....

Our plans are to use them on very soft ground/mud situation end to end during 4x4 trips.....

Who has knowledge of how they were used????

PS.......Whole bunch available..... as is where is....past nowhere....... in Caribou British Columbia.......

[Lang]

Bob

I have about a dozen sheets.

When I was in New Guinea there are Marsten Matting sheets everywhere. They even built a machine to fold them so they could be used as fence posts.

The steel they are made off is unbelievably corrosion resistant. There are many sheets still sticking out of the salt water in the tide line which are recognizable 80 years later.

Once they were locked with the fingers they had flat pins about 2 inches wide made from steel strap folded in half with the "hinge" end flattened to stop them going right through. The pins stopped the sheets sliding back and unlocking the fingers as well as holding down.

I have seen round heavy pegs with a circular cap about 2 feet long which I presume were use on the approach ends when starting a run say on a road to stop the vehicles bending them up.

I am sure there were other systems, just what I have seen.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Hello Bob,

There is info to be found on Marston Mat, often also referred to as Marsden but more properly called pierced (or perforated) steel planking (PSP) on web pages like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marston_Mat and https://military-history.fandom.com/...arsden_Matting
I checked some of the references on those pages, but no links to an Engineering handbook or similar. They are not listed here, for example: https://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/ref/FM/index.html. There must be a manual on how to install, use and remove somewhere?!?

Meanwhile, here's a great example on how to repurpose PSP:
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[Patrice DEBUCQUOY]

Hello,

Here is what I have (taken from TM 5-255 "Aviation Engineers" April 1944)

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https://i.imgur.com/8QClZke.jpg | https://i.imgur.com/5LFtP0g.jpg

Hope it helps,
Cheers,
Patrice.

[Bob Carriere]

Will need to post pictures of the ends on my mats which are slotted and offset in height to ease connection.....Got mine from Robin in Kingston.

Thanks Patrice that manual TM 5-255 is a good clue for more research.....

Seen them used as fence for pig pens but never to store empties....Hanno must have had a good party to save that many empties.....

We have tried using the mats we have to connect at 90 degrees but the spacing of the slots are totally different...... the USA training film on U tube shows the plain end models which they stagger the joints for greater strength.

Mine will serve dual purpose....day time stored inside the 2B1 cargo box vertical/sideways just before the fender wells and the vertical spare tire mount we fabricated.....located side ways..... so they will be trimmed to 79 inches long. At night flat on the fender well boxes laid flat and locked together as a sleeping cot with an air mattress. The front headboard of the cargo box is taken up by the 10:50 spare tire and two small barrells
(60 liters each) of extra fuel strapped in solid.

For occasional soft ground mats use, we are considering welding 3/8 cheap or old rusted nuts to improve traction....one quick zap with the MIG welder inside the hole of each nut....will buy bulk!!!

I did consider storing them externally on the sides of the box but they will interfere with the canvass tie down ropes....... but remain open to suggestions........ Maybe will carry 4 pieces and devise a clip of some sort to tied them together end to end........
In the Western area of PQ we propose to 4x4 in, soft sand and loose gravel is very common in the low areas and bare solid bed rock on the mountain tops........all eroded by the ice shields......... winching can be a problem as solid tie down spots are hard to find....... trees have very superficial root systems......which leaves you with carrying 4 foot sections of re-bars to create chained ground anchors similar to artillery units or burying you spare tire or a log....... what a way to waste a full day......

You can tie down to other convoy members, but two jeeps sideways are needed to pullout a bogged down CMP....... and you loose popularity points very fast..... and on some occasions I propose to travel alone and travel more cautiously..... no cell connection or services.

BC

[Bob Carriere]

...found the publication and was able to download.....

Bob C

PS...lots of bed time reading.....but...... the USA pattern does not address how to tie them end to end which must be a later version or other country..... maybe UK????
with the help our resident engineer .......Grant will design something!!!!!!!

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Patrice DEBUCQUOY

Here is what I have (taken from TM 5-255 "Aviation Engineers" April 1944)

Nice find, thanks for sharing it here.

[Alex van de Wetering]

I was also looking into these recently.....trying to find a way to recognize ww2 made examples from postwar ones....Anyone?

Bob, I do seem to remember the ones with the slots in the ends of the plates are a postwar improvement. Not sure if this is British or US design.

I have also seen them in different length sizes (also presumed postwar) and even ones in plastic or aluminium, which seem to be of very recent manufacture for the 4x4 world.

Also steel ones which don't have the large holes "open" but closed with 3 very small drainage holes.......no idea when these were made.