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Shepherd's Crook
Hi, I am looking for pictures and dimensional information for a 1941 UC MK-1* Shepherd's Crook. Please post whatever info is available. It is not mentioned in UC-F1 or FUC-03 manuals.
Thanks!
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Richard Hatkoski 1940 CMP C11 C-8 (Restoring) 1940 CMP C11 F-15A (Parts) 1941 CMP C12 C-15A (Parts) 1942 CMP C13 F-60S Dumper (Restoring) 2 x 1941 CMP C12 F-GT (Storage) 194? CMP C13 C-60X (For Sale) |
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Richard
Whilst at W&P I picked up some very good repro crooks that Nigel Ward has had made. They're here and available if you want any. Send Nigel a message if you're interested, I'm only babysitting them on his behalf. If you need pictures there's one mounted on the side of the Scout (see thread last page) Ben |
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If you google " shepherd's crook bren carrier" and click on google images, some good photos will show up.
I recently made mine out of 1" square stock with appropriate bends to fit into the brackets on the front plate of my carrier. It even works for adjusting the track, although I prefer using the cam tool. It took about 1/2 hour to make, and the steel ran me $20 with a foot or two left over. |
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Bends to a Shepherd's Crook
Ben and Rob,
Thanks for your comments. I think I will try Rob's suggestion first. Rob, What are the bend radii? What length of 1" square stock did you use? I can get the mounting brackets. Cheers - Richard
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Richard Hatkoski 1940 CMP C11 C-8 (Restoring) 1940 CMP C11 F-15A (Parts) 1941 CMP C12 C-15A (Parts) 1942 CMP C13 F-60S Dumper (Restoring) 2 x 1941 CMP C12 F-GT (Storage) 194? CMP C13 C-60X (For Sale) |
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I don't have exact measurements, but I guess I can go outside and get them. You will want to buy extra length...I bought a 6 foot piece. The thing is, since you are working with 1" square, you will not necessarily get the bend exactly where you want it, so expect to have about a half to a foot left over on each end. I heated with oxy acetylene, and once you have the area of the first bend red hot and bending, you start working your way down, keeping the radius even. When done, you cut off the excess form each end.
I may have some extras of the brackets available if you have trouble finding them. |
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No rush: Bend Radii
Rob,
I'm not working on the Crook today so when you are out to your carrier next, no rush needed on the measurements! Thanks for the overall dimensions. Regards, Richard
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Richard Hatkoski 1940 CMP C11 C-8 (Restoring) 1940 CMP C11 F-15A (Parts) 1941 CMP C12 C-15A (Parts) 1942 CMP C13 F-60S Dumper (Restoring) 2 x 1941 CMP C12 F-GT (Storage) 194? CMP C13 C-60X (For Sale) |
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I had some crooks burned at a profilers not long ago, I think I still have the cad file somewhere if you need it.
rick
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_______________________ 1941 mk1 mortar Carrier 1941 Mk1* Carrier 1942 Mk1* Carrier 1943 T16 Carrier 1945 Mk3 Dingo 1941 Mk3 Covenanter 1941 Mk4 Churchill AVRE (now sold) 1944 Mk6 Cromwell (now sold) 1952 Mk3 Centurion 1952 ARV Centurion 1952 ARV Centurion 1953 Mk3 Centurion (breaking) |
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CTL 3238 Tool - track adjusting
Page 374 of FUC-03 Imagine how quickly the original shepherds crooks went to the scrap metal effort when replaced with the snail. Not many 1941 MK-I*'s universal carriers about for that matter Last edited by Michael R.; 09-08-14 at 03:38. |
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not many for sure
incidentally I have a spare crook but the cost of shipping just makes it impractical in my opinion but if someone wants to pay then I will ship it. the crook is £33. rick
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I could almost go for that Rick. It sounds like a good deal
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Bluebell Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991 Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6. Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6 Jeep Mb #135668 So many questions.... |
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lynn I had it with me at war and peace
i'll ship it if you want but it would make more sense to have one made locally using the cad file from my profiler which I have hidden in my emails somewhere ! rick
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Crook Cad File
Hello Rick,
Would it be possible for you to forward me that Crook"ed" Cad File once you find it? Thanks, Richard
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Richard Hatkoski 1940 CMP C11 C-8 (Restoring) 1940 CMP C11 F-15A (Parts) 1941 CMP C12 C-15A (Parts) 1942 CMP C13 F-60S Dumper (Restoring) 2 x 1941 CMP C12 F-GT (Storage) 194? CMP C13 C-60X (For Sale) |
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Rick, pm sent.
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Bluebell Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991 Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6. Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6 Jeep Mb #135668 So many questions.... |
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rich no worries just got to get hold of the cad file, then i'll pass it on.
rick
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Emailing .dwg files
Rick,
Much appreciated! Will post pictures to MLU when I get mine fabricated. Cheers.
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Richard Hatkoski 1940 CMP C11 C-8 (Restoring) 1940 CMP C11 F-15A (Parts) 1941 CMP C12 C-15A (Parts) 1942 CMP C13 F-60S Dumper (Restoring) 2 x 1941 CMP C12 F-GT (Storage) 194? CMP C13 C-60X (For Sale) |
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hi rich
I can't find my original file but I think Jordan might have a copy of it, if not and you can't get one i'll speak to barry my profiler and ask him to forward it to me. rick
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I've got a copy of the file I can send if need be?
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1967 Land Rover Plant Repair Vehicle 1941 Matchless G3L 194? Wiles Junior Trailer 1941 Morris Commercial CS8 |
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Thanks Alex,
email sent on behalf of Rick and Richard, with compliments. |
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cheers
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_______________________ 1941 mk1 mortar Carrier 1941 Mk1* Carrier 1942 Mk1* Carrier 1943 T16 Carrier 1945 Mk3 Dingo 1941 Mk3 Covenanter 1941 Mk4 Churchill AVRE (now sold) 1944 Mk6 Cromwell (now sold) 1952 Mk3 Centurion 1952 ARV Centurion 1952 ARV Centurion 1953 Mk3 Centurion (breaking) |
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Sorry guys. I just found it on my computer this morning.
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Jordan Baker RHLI Museum, Otter LRC C15A-Wire3, 1944 Willys MB, 1942 10cwt Canadian trailer |
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