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Australian carrier assembly - helpful hints and traps
As suggested by Lynn, this thread covers hints and traps when assembling LP2 and LP2a Australian carriers.
We have all turned a simple job into a major job at some point so if we can learn from others mistakes it can make this hobby more rewarding. On simple job I did that turned into a big job was to fit the steering cross tube into the hull upside down, it wasn't until I got the cam plate in I found the cam rollers only just contacted the cam plate.
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Euan McDonald 4? C-GT (Aust) #8 44 C-GT (Aust) #9 42 Jeep, Trailer Aust 3 Welbike MK2 complete Welbike MK2 inconplete under resto C15A x3 C60S x1 ex ambo F60L x3 LP2a carrier SAR #4993. Trailer No27 Limber Trailer, Cario cargo Trailer, Pontoon semi Wiles Cooker 2 wheeled (jnr) |
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I also suggest that you take lots of photos before pulling things apart and also photos as you go. Sometimes it maybe 2 or 3 months before you return to it to rebuild. This is recommended as it helps in the long run.
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Rick, for some of us it 2 or 3 years....or 4...........or 5....
Euan, for the record then, which way is up?
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Bluebell Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991 Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6. Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6 Jeep Mb #135668 So many questions.... Last edited by Lynn Eades; 17-07-15 at 00:04. |
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The stamped word 'TOP' goes ... errr ... on the top??
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Thank you Mike! (Do they really have "TOP" stamped on them?)
Maybe I should direct my question this way? EUAN!, Do the bevels on the blocks go up or down? (as this was intended to be a helpful thread) (every body with an LP2 has probably been out to have a look by now)
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Bluebell Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991 Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6. Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6 Jeep Mb #135668 So many questions.... |
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Thank you Mike! (Do they really have "TOP" stamped on them?)
Maybe I should direct my question this way? EUAN!, Do the bevels on the blocks go up or down? (as this was intended to be a helpful thread)
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Bluebell Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991 Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6. Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6 Jeep Mb #135668 So many questions.... |
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Lynn, The bevel goes to the top. I will try and dig out some pics.
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Euan McDonald 4? C-GT (Aust) #8 44 C-GT (Aust) #9 42 Jeep, Trailer Aust 3 Welbike MK2 complete Welbike MK2 inconplete under resto C15A x3 C60S x1 ex ambo F60L x3 LP2a carrier SAR #4993. Trailer No27 Limber Trailer, Cario cargo Trailer, Pontoon semi Wiles Cooker 2 wheeled (jnr) |
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The gasket (part # BB-40350 that goes between the two halves of the rear axle is ).010" (10 thou) or in metric 0.25mm
The thickness is important because it sets the side bearing preload. There is a list of bearings with Timken and Ford cross over in the other carrier hints thread.
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Bluebell Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991 Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6. Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6 Jeep Mb #135668 So many questions.... |
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Diff gasket thickness
Lynn , this thickness varies, because when you do the preload set up , new bearings can require this to be thicker and older more worn bearings will use thinner gaskets, so there is no real given measurement, other than using .010 as a starting point, many times we have used 2 or 3 gaskets together of different thickness to get the required preload. I had a heap of gaskets lasered up , so we have the different ones on hand for the job. Usually set up preload with the pinion out, so you have access to move the crown wheel. Bolt the 2 halves together with 6 bolts try, change gaskets if necessary, try again.
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Valentine MkV Covenanter MkIV Lynx MKI and MKII Loyd Carrier / English / Candian / LP. M3 Stuart |
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This is more of an alternative rather than a tip. The rear gearbox mount for a carrier is quite a hard part to find but there you can get one from a ford truck (Not sure which models of trucks have these!) but they seem to be easier to find. They are a bit taller and the bottom holes are a bit further out but is quite easy to cut, grind and weld to make it fit. They are made from cast iron so need to be welded to match. It took me about an hour and a half to change it.
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Sorry I didn't take any pics during but here's what it looks like after the change and all mounting points match the original one. A coat of paint and it will be hard to tell the difference.
Colin. |
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