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Old 03-06-12, 16:35
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Default Half Track Treads & Bogies

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I'm Richard from the Carrier and CMP forums. Yesterday, I was chasing down some CMP truck parts and I came across these treads and bogie/running gear in the bush. Some of the treads are have rubber pads and some are steel. Running gear is painted and looks to be in good condition, covered with years of leaves. Rumour has it that they are from an International half track. I am going back to the property on Wednesday. All remaining scrap on the property is going to the scrap yard next week. Does anyone in the armour forum recognize what these are? Should I pick them up while I'm there? Let me know, I would hate to see something go to the scrap yard if someone out there needs them.
Thanks, Richard
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Old 04-06-12, 00:15
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They do look like they belonged to a half track, nice looking treads as well.

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Old 04-06-12, 15:34
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The first picture definitely looks like half-track tracks, 3 of them. As for the second picture that is not a half-track track, nor does the frame look anything like the parts from a half-track. The 3rd picture I'd have to say the same as the second. None of those parts looks to be from a half-track. Once dug out maybe more will tell us better

Richard I will send you measurements and actual pictures of track and sprockets etc to you directly

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Old 05-06-12, 13:22
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Richard I will send you measurements and actual pictures of track and sprockets etc to you directly

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Where's the fun in that?

Share with all of us.

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Old 05-06-12, 21:01
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As for the second picture that is not a half-track track, nor does the frame look anything like the parts from a half-track. The 3rd picture I'd have to say the same as the second. None of those parts looks to be from a half-track. Once dug out maybe more will tell us better
Andy you are right! At first glance I thought regular US WW2 half track stuff but indeed it isn't. I can see a leaf sprung bogie and a different type of track. Must be the remains of one of the pre-war Cunningham half tracks as depicted on this pages like http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/U...lf-tracks.html and http://www.trucksplanet.com/catalog/model.php?id=1062

Great find, Richard!

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Old 05-06-12, 23:00
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So Richard, that must mean they are rare! Go and save them! Even if no one needs them now, when they are gone someone will!

Cheers,
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NOW it's getting exciting...
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Old 06-06-12, 15:24
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Guys,

Thanks for the information. They will be excavated tonight and I'll have them back at my shop Thursday afternoon. Will post pictures when the dirt is off of them.

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Old 06-06-12, 20:05
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Default Half Track

Rich..
Looks similar to White Half track tracks imaged here.
What ever it is save it..
Great find.
http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&s...r:8,s:28,i:151
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Default Innes Cunningham Gun Tractor

Sure looks like those tracks come off an Innes Cunningham tractor like the one Phil Gravelle from Scotland ,Ont. sent to the War Museum in Ottawa.
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Old 08-06-12, 13:02
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Default Half Track Retrieved

Guys,

Here are some photos from last night's retrieval. The bogie assembly weighs a ton, probably a ton and 1/2! Good news is that who ever dumped it in the bush, greased it first. Everything turns freely and doesn't look to be out of alignment or bent.
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Old 08-06-12, 13:11
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Default Innes Cunningham Track/bogie specifications

Guys,

Here are some close ups of the track and bogie. Is this good enough to confirm that it is an Innes Cunningham?

I'll power wash then oil spray the tracks and put them into storage. Same for the bogies, I'll put a grease gun to the nipples and put it also into storage.

I do not have any plans for the tracks and bogies. I would like to sell them and put the proceeds towards restoring the Wire 5 and the Dumper. Send me a PM if anyone is interested.

Regards, Richard
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Old 08-06-12, 16:32
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Guys,

Here are some close ups of the track and bogie. Is this good enough to confirm that it is an Innes Cunningham?

I'll power wash then oil spray the tracks and put them into storage. Same for the bogies, I'll put a grease gun to the nipples and put it also into storage.

I do not have any plans for the tracks and bogies. I would like to sell them and put the proceeds towards restoring the Wire 5 and the Dumper. Send me a PM if anyone is interested.

Regards, Richard

Rich..Nice find but DO NOT OIL SPRAY the rubber tracks..oil will disintegrate the rubber...If you have already done it ,re pressure the rubber tracks clean..Keeping them in a dry storage area is the best thing to do..
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Old 08-06-12, 16:39
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Alex,

Good call. I was driving to work this morning and I thought the same thing. My dad is always telling me that you can only use hydraulic oil with rubber. I will just power wash them, air dry and then dry store.

Regards, Richard
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Old 08-06-12, 20:40
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Is this good enough to confirm that it is an Innes Cunningham?
Yes!

Read more about them here http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...?t=9020&page=2

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