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Old 05-03-17, 07:25
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The inner hub seal is a BB-1175-C. Not too hard to find. Try Nigel Ward or Macs auto.
The inner nut has a peg which the splined washer slides onto (to hold it from turning) The outer nut is plain and goes up against the lock washer.
I hope that helps.
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Old 05-03-17, 10:29
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Thanks Lynn as always . Is there and outer ring seal as well ? I just have the spline washer and the two nuts should my local bearing man have the bearings or will the be specialised ? . Dale
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Old 05-03-17, 19:06
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Dale, some Ford hubs have a metal ring that slides on the splined washer. Some have a leather seal bonded to them. Some don't have a seal at all. If your carrier is a flat land machine, you probably don't need outer seals. I think most problems here are from where they are parked, rather than driven. (make sense?) Also you can use grease in your wheel bearings rather than oil. This way, the risk of lube leaking through the inner seal to the brakes is reduced.
Make sure the tell tale hole in the backing plates is clear.
The bearings are standard timken (inner and outer, cups and cones)
If you want I can find numbers. Timken made bearings for Ford with Ford part numbers, Then there are Timken numbers, Bower was another supplier.
They are the same as a F15-60 or C15-60 CMP, I think?
Try the man at Hervey bay? He is possibly good for outer seals if you can't find them in another Ford axle?
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Old 05-03-17, 23:48
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Dale, if you go to my thread "Carrier Assembly; helpful hints tricks and traps"
Post #8 refers to diff bearings.
Timken 3920 is Ford BB-4222
Timken 3984 is Ford BB-4221-B
The outer bearing is Timken53375 cup and 53176 cone.
The drill bit in the axle shows the tell tale hole.
The Ford 8 sided spanner is shown.
I have not hunted for pictures of the outer hub seals.
Inner hub seal BB-1175-c is shown in the last photo. It is held in the hub by a circlip.
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Old 06-03-17, 02:33
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Excellent timing Lynn . My bearing guy was going to take a far bit of time to convert ford numbers over to Timken I've just past on info from you he was happy with that , Nigel is digging through this parts he has some inner seals somewhere .Dale
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Old 06-03-17, 04:33
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Excellent timing Lynn . My bearing guy was going to take a far bit of time to convert ford numbers over to Timken I've just past on info from you he was happy with that , Nigel is digging through this parts he has some inner seals somewhere .Dale
Hi Dale,
The bearings are used on the Ferguson and Fordson Dexta tractors, think they are the diff ones but cannot confirm as not got the details to hand but easy to obtain and reasonable prices.

regards, Richard
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Old 08-03-17, 03:50
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Is it best to pre load the brake rod onto the 635-3 LEVER BRAKE OPERATING I notice when brakes are off it's sitting just above the wedge brake operating ball ? Dale
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Old 08-03-17, 06:34
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Hi Dale, I take it you have noticed this with your drum off, which probably to get the drum off the shoes have been slackened back?, so with drum on and adjusted right, there should be positive "feel" Make sure you centralise the shoes first and then adjust the top and then maybe back to the bottom to readjust the centralising of the shoes and then back to the top again for clearance. I have my drums machined and the shoes radius so they are exact. This is why some carriers get a poor reputation for handling because the brakes are not properly set up . My carrier could idle around in it,s own length, and obviously when you run your carrier and they get hot , you also have to make sure you are not too tight on your clearance between drum and shoe. There is no place for a feeler gauge like jeeps have, that they use to check your clearance, it is all done by "feel". Cheers Andrew.
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Old 08-03-17, 09:08
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With drums off , as I'm new to this older brakes setting up stuff ! when I'm playing with set up , to see how things work under the brake drums , looks like the bottom adjustment moves it left to right and top opens and closes the top of brakes shoes . Am I on track with that comment or am I missing something
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Old 08-03-17, 19:53
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Correct. Cheers Andrew.
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Old 29-03-18, 01:37
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I thought this would be a great thread to study, but almost all the pictures are gone.
Disappointed.
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Old 29-03-18, 02:14
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This is a good example of why it's important to follow the forum suggestions on how to post pictures.
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Old 29-03-18, 23:46
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I agree Euan . I worked out to late how to do it !! It would be nice to look back at what I did .. and good reference for others .
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Looks like my photos are back up . I have let Sam know . Dale
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Old 25-07-18, 06:28
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Can some one tell me the thread size and type for the RAD water drain hole under and just behind the water pumps on a flat head . I have a plug in my engine , as I'm going to drain to replace my temp sender so thought i would put a tap in at the same time . Dale
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Old 25-07-18, 07:45
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I think it will be 1/4" NPT, as they are American spec, I might have to double check tomorrow for you, Cheers Andrew.
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