Early CMP Van? - Car, Heavy Utility, 4x2 (Ford C011DF-F8)

[Alex van de Wetering]

I am counting at least 3 in this IWM picture.....but possible even 7!

source: https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/i...ject/205364195
IWM: FRE 4156

first enlargement.....3 seen from the back.
second enlargement....possible 1 from the side in the centre of the pic. and three seen on the left side nose on the far right of the picture.


Alex

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Another picture via Les Freathy:

“More RN vehicles here a Ford WOA1 car, Ford CO11DF utility and a Ford 15cwt crossing bridge during the take over of the Port of Civitavecchia in Italy”

[Alex van de Wetering]

We have discussed this picture on the forum before....when I thought the truck on the right might be an 8cwt, but it wasn't.....just a 15CWT. But what about the van on the left? Could this be one of the early Ford Heavy Utilities???

The picture is taken in Port-en-Bessin. IWM A 24689
source:https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/i...ject/205156536

Alex

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Here’s one in post war Holland, towing a huge horse box trailer! I wonder how long it lasted before it got in trouble.



Louis van Telgen found this picture in the Dutch National Archives

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Ian McCallum spotted this one:

“W.A.A.F. TECHNICIANS SERVE WITH THE R.A.F. FILM PRODUCTION UNIT : FOR STORY SEE CH.14171A

Original wartime caption: Picture (issued 1944) shows - The film arrives. It has been rushed at great speed from an airfield many miles away. At hand, awaiting the film, is LACW Bores, of Brentwood, Essex, assistant in charge of Film Despatch Department of the R.A.F. F.P.U. She takes the film immediately to the laboratories.“


Source: https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/i...ject/205453486

[Alex van de Wetering]

Ian McCallum spotted this one:

Excellent find Ian! Thanks for posing it on MLU, Hanno.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

“airfield control van at USAAF bases in England, sporting that essential addition, the B-17 plexiglass nose”

[Mike Kelly]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

“airfield control van at USAAF bases in England, sporting that essential addition, the B-17 plexiglass nose”

Think it should read USAAC ?

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Mike Kelly

Think it should read USAAC ?

It is a quote from the guy who posted the picture, I didn’t think about it. But on checking your reply, I found that the US Army Air Corps became the United States Army Air Forces (USAAF) on 20 June 1941. The picture was most likely taken after that date.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Another one. Date and location unknown.

[Lynn Eades]

Interesting to see the trafficator there.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Lynn Eades

Interesting to see the trafficator there.

I suspect this photo was made postwar, when alterations were made.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/i...ject/205156228

ROYAL NAVY GETS PORT OF ROME GOING AGAIN. 14 AND 15 JUNE 1944, CIVITAVECCHIA. 96 HOURS AFTER THEIR ARRIVAL AT THE WRECKED PORT OF CIVITAVECCHIA, 40 MILES NORTH-WEST OF ROME, THE OFFICERS OF THE PORT CLEARANCE PARTY WERE GUIDING IN A FLEET OF ALLIED LANDING CRAFT PAST 46 WRECKS IN THE HARBOUR.

Object description
A general view of one of the yards at Civitavecchia which was cleared of rubble and usable within 96 hours. LCT's can be seen discharging supplies.



© IWM A 24319

[Matt Austin]

Originally Posted by Mike Kelly

Think it should read USAAC ?

USAAF from 20 June 1941, although "Army Air Corps" was seen unofficially for some time after that.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

“Cameramen must know how to drive a vehicle or motor cycle. A class receive instruction in the maintenance of one of the unit's lorries.

June 1943"

https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/i...ject/205503121

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Some more pics:

[Mike Kelly]

Is this a F8

https://youtu.be/e4OcHi8RY_I

[Keith Webb]

Sure looks like it.

[Mike Cecil]

Is that a Martin B26 Marauder ???

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Mike Kelly

Is this a F8

https://youtu.be/e4OcHi8RY_I

Like Keith said: sure is - hence I merged it with the existing thread.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Mike Cecil

Is that a Martin B26 Marauder ???

Sure is - check the footage, really interesting to see.

Thanks for posting this, Mike Kelly.

[Grant Bowker]

Another possibility - Douglas A-20

[Mike Cecil]

No, Hanno was right: that film is a beauty and all about B26s. I just sent the link to my friend at NASM, as they are conserving 'Flak Bait' at the moment: the team had not see it, so are most appreciative of the link.

Well spotted Mike Kelly, thanks for posting!

Mike

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Mike Cecil

No, Hanno was right: that film is a beauty and all about B26s. I just sent the link to my friend at NASM, as they are conserving 'Flak Bait' at the moment: the team had not see it, so are most appreciative of the link.

Well spotted Mike Kelly, thanks for posting!

Just read about Flak Bait getting the attention it deserves. Fascinating history, well worth a read: https://airandspace.si.edu/collectio...m_A19600297000

[Mike Cecil]

It certainly has fantastic provenance. The forward fuselage was on display for many years at NASM on the Mall. Image 13 of 16 in the link posted by Hanno shows the result: along the rear edge (the right side of the image) can be seen the irregular shaped area of raw Aluminium, the result of the removal of the original paintwork by the many thousands of visitors who grasped that edge as they looked into the rear area. I suppose in those days Museums were not quite as attentive to such things - could have been an easy fix with a sheet of perspex to cover the edge.

Been following the restoration/conservation, and it certainly is meticulous. Looking forward to seeing it completed.

Mike

[Mike Kelly]

Originally Posted by Grant Bowker

Another possibility - Douglas A-20

Think this is a Boston . The description of the car is incorrect

https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C224641

[Hanno Spoelstra]

“ “Gaye" a Ford F8 heavy utility in USAAF service as a mobile control at RAF Burtonwood, Base Air Depot 1, England, 20th April 1943”

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Two more pics which may have appeared on this thread before.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

One more via Keith Webb.

Interestingly the front has not been painted in b&w checkers pattern.

“Chevrolet (sic) F8 fitted out as a mobile air traffic control unit at Duxford (P-47 of the 83rd Fighter Squadron, 78th Fighter Group)”

[Larry Hayward]

How about this one - used by RAF