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Old 26-08-11, 02:13
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Ever wondered what would happen if you were happily driving along and hit a barrier in your CMP at 30MPH?

Watch this.


You seat belt would do nothing to save you from being impaled on the steering wheel as it pushes almost to the back wall of the cab. I'd be leaning as far to the left as possible and take my chances on the engine cover.

The test footage shows a trial with a fuel bladder (full of water) on the back of the vehicle which conveniently adds to the overall effect by stoving in the back of the cab.

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Old 26-08-11, 05:44
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WOW good footage for the "loose 5 and stay alive" campain.
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Old 26-08-11, 05:57
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WOW good footage for the "loose 5 and stay alive" campain.
You reckon 5ks less and you wouldn't get impaled? I think I'd still be ducking off to the left just in case...

There have been some serious accidents involving WW2 MVs over the years. There was one in Europe I think where a FGT was being towed which resulted in a fatality. We tend to think just because these things have survived 70 odd years they must be safe when the opposite can be the case.

This does serve as a warning of sorts to show what will happen if the steering box comes into contact with a hard object. Most vehicles of that era had a similar outcome which is why the steering columns were redesigned to avoid this.
Actually I can think of at least one very modified CMP which would not have this outcome - can anyone tell me which one it is?
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Old 26-08-11, 06:49
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It won't go fast enough to cause any impact damage.
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Old 26-08-11, 07:08
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I seem to recall you have a photo of a wrecked Stude on your site Keith showing a similar result, steering column against the back of the cab,
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Old 26-08-11, 07:29
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I understand what you are saying Keith but that bladder wasn't restrained to modern RTA standards to escape its bonds at only 30mph.
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Old 26-08-11, 14:06
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You reckon 5ks less and you wouldn't get impaled? I think I'd still be ducking off to the left just in case...

There have been some serious accidents involving WW2 MVs over the years. There was one in Europe I think where a FGT was being towed which resulted in a fatality. We tend to think just because these things have survived 70 odd years they must be safe when the opposite can be the case.

This does serve as a warning of sorts to show what will happen if the steering box comes into contact with a hard object. Most vehicles of that era had a similar outcome which is why the steering columns were redesigned to avoid this.
Actually I can think of at least one very modified CMP which would not have this outcome - can anyone tell me which one it is?
Wouldn't be a Chev MCP on a C60S chassis from the Newcastle area????
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Old 26-08-11, 22:50
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Wouldn't be a Chev MCP on a C60S chassis from the Newcastle area????
Yes, Robert that was the one I was thinking of with the universal joints to make the steering work. Barry Peters I think owns it?
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Ever wondered what would happen if you were happily driving along and hit a barrier in your CMP at 30MPH?

Watch this.


You seat belt would do nothing to save you from being impaled on the steering wheel as it pushes almost to the back wall of the cab. I'd be leaning as far to the left as possible and take my chances on the engine cover.

The test footage shows a trial with a fuel bladder (full of water) on the back of the vehicle which conveniently adds to the overall effect by stoving in the back of the cab.

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After:




Hi Guys


I was watching some antique vehicle crash test and remembered this video posted by Keith Webb back in 2011. The link is no longer good. Was hoping somebody saved the video and could repost it.


Cheers Phil
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