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Vincent BLASSIC 17-01-18 21:30

Identification please for my new CMP
 
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Hello everybody from France !!


Few weeks ago,
a friend found this....
and I will buy it ! to restore
95 % Complete truck


But I need to know what model is it ...
I can't see any ID data plates.
Please, help me !

I think it's FORD F15A.

Niels V 17-01-18 21:36

Hi
It looks like a good project.
It is a Ford F15 4x2 not an F15A which is the 4x4 version
Good luck

Vincent BLASSIC 17-01-18 21:41

Thanks Dear Niels !!

- where are data plates on this truck ??
- where to find drawnings to make top bows ??


Are missing only :
- top bows and canvas
- door rings for headlamp

Hanno Spoelstra 17-01-18 22:53

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Nice find, Vincent!

And a great way to make your entry on our forum - welcome.

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Originally Posted by Vincent BLASSIC (Post 246829)
- where are data plates on this truck ??

The data plates on a Ford should be on the inside of the right hand door (this is mine):
Attachment 97195

Hope this helps,
Hanno

Vincent BLASSIC 19-01-18 13:22

Where Can I found drawnings to Make top bows ??

Keith Webb 19-01-18 21:13

Data plates
 
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Hi Vincent

I can assist with new old stock data plates for Ford CMPs, the first, third and fourth in this picture are available.

You can see the publications plate is specific to your F15.

Please send me a pm if you are interested and I'll send you a price including postage.

Vincent BLASSIC 21-01-18 21:08

Thanks for this offer dear Keith !!



I'm waiting few weeks to catch this truck and to put in my garage.
I will say you !!


Thanks again , from France !

Hanno Spoelstra 21-01-18 21:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Vincent BLASSIC (Post 246829)
- where are data plates on this truck ??
- where to find drawnings to make top bows ??


Are missing only :
- top bows and canvas
- door rings for headlamp

Hello Vincent,

I do not know of drawings for top bows, someone will have to measure them for you.

The rear canvas cover can be bought from John & Mary Worthing, see their website http://www.canvasco.com/:

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CMP 15cwt rear cover

Attachment 97339

Accurate copy of original, all sides roll up, small side and rear window lights, in desert colour or khaki. price £475

Vincent BLASSIC 25-03-18 22:53

Hello friends !!!

D-day today !!!
F15 is mine !!

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Vincent BLASSIC 25-03-18 22:59

It's my 1rst FORD F15

I own :
- 08/1944 Jeep MB
- 1937 French CITROEN 11BL
- 1944 DKW NZ 350-1 German motorcycle.


But I need infos about this new CMP...

It's F15, OK.

- Date ?? 1942,1943, 1944, 1945...?
- Serial numbers ??? (no plates, no holes on right door for plates, but on dashboard...)


Thanks for help , from France

Keith Webb 26-03-18 01:08

Congratulations!
 
Looks like a very complete truck too.

Vincent BLASSIC 28-03-18 23:14

Please,

Help me to find date of delivery and serial number ...

Thanks from France

Alex van de Wetering 29-03-18 23:05

Vincent,

Could it be that the door has been recently replaced? It seems to have a slightly different colour and that could also be the reason for the missing data plates.

I seem to remember that the Ford cab13 nose with lettering "FORD" under the headlights, suggest it was built in 1943(?) Hopefully anyone can confirm.

There is a thread here that gives some ideas where to look for a possible chassis number. Sadly not all trucks were stamped with a number!

Alex

cletrac (RIP) 30-03-18 00:54

The Ford script, dash, and rectangular roof hatch all indicate a 1943 vehicle.

Bruce Parker (RIP) 30-03-18 03:26

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Originally Posted by cletrac (Post 249044)
The Ford script, dash, and rectangular roof hatch all indicate a 1943 vehicle.

1942 too. What is odd is the 'FORD" stampings on the front cowl under the headlamps. That is a later war feature. I'd comment on the floor checker plate pattern (which is the latter style) but that vs. the checker plus dot pattern seems to be hit an miss.

cletrac (RIP) 30-03-18 06:34

The Ford script combined with the other early features is why I said 1943.

Vincent BLASSIC 30-03-18 13:01

Thank you dear Friends !!

This morning I found a serial number on frame, right hand side, near springs mount, above rear tyre.

I saw 149 587.

Mid 1943 ??

Hanno Spoelstra 30-03-18 21:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vincent BLASSIC (Post 249052)
Thank you dear Friends !!

This morning I found a serial number on frame, right hand side, near springs mount, above rear tyre.

I saw 149 587.

Hello Vincent,

Check http://www.canadian-register.co.uk/database.html for a listing of surviving Ford CMPs to compare the Chassis No's.

Hope this helps,
Hanno

Vincent BLASSIC 30-03-18 21:24

Thanks !

I think July/August 1943...



All data plates are missing, all....
on dashboard, on engine box.... only holes

Hanno Spoelstra 31-03-18 15:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vincent BLASSIC (Post 249067)
I think July/August 1943...

Based on the data available, chassis no. 149 587 fits in between:

Model / Year / Chassis No.
F15A / Feb 19 - 1943 / 117810
F15A / Aug-43 / 151801

So July/Aug 1943 is a good estimate.

Could you please take a picture of where you found the number? It's a new location to me.

Thanks,
Hanno

Vincent BLASSIC 02-04-18 08:50

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Look number location !!

I think more and more to August 1943...

Hanno Spoelstra 03-04-18 07:53

Vincent, excellent!

Thanks for sharing the clear pictures.

Regards,
Hanno

Grant Bowker 09-04-18 02:40

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Photo attached of a ford instrument panel that shows shadow outlines of data plates so at least one Ford seems to have had the data plates on the panel.

cletrac (RIP) 09-04-18 05:35

I have a few with the data plates there.

Keith Webb 09-04-18 12:34

Plates on dash.
 
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One will be a publications plate and the other may be the manufacturers plate.

F15 publications plate shown here. I have these available for F15, F15A, F60S, F60L and FGT. They are new old stock.

$A20 each plus postage.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Grant Bowker (Post 249416)
Photo attached of a ford instrument panel that shows shadow outlines of data plates so at least one Ford seems to have had the data plates on the panel.


John Winfield 10-04-18 06:09

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Thanks for posting all this. I have been looking for the chassis number on my recently acquired F15A and found it in this exact same location. And best of all, it matches the number on the title!

It's about 10,000 earlier than Vincent's truck.

It also has the two tags on the instrument panel, and no sign of any other plates anywhere.

The plates seem to match the truck. The deck appears to be from a welding truck, modified into a flat deck by cutting down the fenders (and removing the welder, of course). The brackets for the folding table are still there.

John Winfield

Vincent BLASSIC 10-04-18 07:51

Great !!

Ok for 2 data plates.
-publication
-manufacturer

Other plates on engine cover ???
Holes on mine but no plates...

Vincent BLASSIC 28-05-18 19:55

Hello Friends.

I'm still looking for missing parts in Europe with internet.

So,

I think I will paint all the truck with SCC2 color and camo pattern in SCC14 color, I will make it in 1944 Normandy campaign profil.


My question is :

what is engine color ??? SCC2 or Ford Grey (as for GPW Jeeps) ???

Jacques Reed 29-05-18 01:01

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Originally Posted by Vincent BLASSIC (Post 249446)
Other plates on engine cover ???
Holes on mine but no plates...

Hello Vincent,

These are the data plates on the engine cover of my Australian assembled Ford F-15A.

Not sure if Canadian sourced vehicles used the same plates. Perhaps another person can confirm.

Cheers

Vincent BLASSIC 29-05-18 01:33

Great Jacques !!

🙌


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