ID Please: CMP in Libya

Kuno · #1 13-02-10, 10:42

As usual from my side: could anybody please help to identify this wreck of a CMP.

The photo dates back actually to a desert trip in 2007. Whe recently somebody addressed to me to draw a track from the mission report onto the maps then it became clear, that more attention should be paid to this wreck. Guess that we will not be able to really identify it but... who knows.

Most helpful would be to find out the precise type of truck...

Tony Smith · #2 13-02-10, 10:57

It looks to be a Chev 12 Cab, but without the chassis it's hard to ID the capacity.

The Chev 12 cabs had the interior side of the doors lined with sheetmetal while the Ford was unlined, and there is the remains of the condensor can on the left side of the cowl.

See the below pic from one of your other threads of the Ford style of door:

Hanno Spoelstra · #3 13-02-10, 11:49

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Originally Posted by Tony Smith

It looks to be a Chev 12 Cab, but without the chassis it's hard to ID the capacity.

The Chev 12 cabs had the interior side of the doors lined with sheetmetal while the Ford was unlined, and there is the remains of the condensor can on the left side of the cowl.

See the below pic from one of your other threads of the Ford style of door:

Tony,

I agree it is a Chevrolet 12 Cab, but not because of the inner door being lined or not. The main identifying point are the vent holes, if they are there they are round on Chevrolets and square on Fords.

I have seen Fords with lined doors, and Chevrolets with unlined doors. Take a closer look at the pic you attached: note the round vent holes and the banjo axle standing in front of it?!?

Hanno

Hanno Spoelstra · #4 13-02-10, 11:52

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Originally Posted by Kuno

The photo dates back actually to a desert trip in 2007. Whe recently somebody addressed to me to draw a track from the mission report onto the maps then it became clear, that more attention should be paid to this wreck. Guess that we will not be able to really identify it but... who knows.

Most helpful would be to find out the precise type of truck...

Kuno,

As Tony said, it is a Chevrolet with Cab no. 12, but without the chassis it is nearly impossible if it was a 8-, 15-, 30- or 60-cwt truck. There are some differences in the inner wheel arches between 2 and 4 wheel drive trucks, so if you would have the chance to take some measurements we might be able to find out more.

Am very much interested to hear about the significance of this truck!

Hanno

oztankboy · #5 13-02-10, 15:01

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Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

Tony,

I agree it is a Chevrolet 12 Cab, but not because of the inner door being lined or not. The main identifying point are the vent holes, if they are there they are round on Chevrolets and square on Fords.

I have seen Fords with lined doors, and Chevrolets with unlined doors. Take a closer look at the pic you attached: note the round vent holes and the banjo axle standing in front of it?!?

Hanno

I agree with Hanno... if you zoom in on the picture just behind the 44 that its sitting on you can also see the chev style spring shackle.

Phil...

Kuno · #6 13-02-10, 15:11

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Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

Am very much interested to hear about the significance of this truck!

Due to the particular location of the wreck, I believe that it is a remnant of 'Operation Nicety' - one of the trucks which was chased by the Luftwaffe and shot up quite far south in the desert (the Germans just followed the traces...)