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Old 18-08-13, 17:23
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Default Carrier for sale in australia

Sure this has been discussed on here before.
I am interested but too far away for a viewing.
I am after a few favours from friends "Down Under"

1) Is this a genuine advert or scam?

2) Has anyone any further info on it, still for sale, etc?

3) Do we have a member in the area if it is still there (or there at all!!) who could verify it for me (I can pay expenses and beer, only stubbies, no scooners your driving!!)

4) Anyone recommend a local shipping agent if the deal did go thru who can deliver over the pond??

Any further info greatly appreciated.

I have mailed the seller and waiting for an answer.

Many Thanks in advance

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/wicke...ier/1023395301
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Old 18-08-13, 20:02
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Has had a lower hull plate from another carrier stuck on the side as top armour... So you will need to replace that, and rip the dash out of it too.... Otherwise looks good. It is English (or I should say I believe it is) as the engine mount rails are right angle rather than the curved bent type ala Canadian design.

Has had some mods done during a resto at some point but its all fixable with time and cash. Ps I have a repro side armour plate that would fit that side of the carrier.

Appears to have Aussie front idlers fitted.

I can also help you out with front and rear fenders... Rear armour drawings and a template for all the holes to be drilled on the rear plate.

If you want it, secure it with deposit, no offence but now that you have put this in the public domain some unscrupulous types will swoop in and swipe the carrier from under you... There is little honour amongst people who want something badly enough.
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Old 18-08-13, 20:45
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Thanks guys.

My main concern is if its still for sale, or ever was (scam?)
Time I have and resorces, cash is as and when, just dont have a carrier!!!

Wait to see if get a reply or a local Mapleleafup "Agent" to investigate!
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Old 18-08-13, 21:10
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It certainly looks to be based on a British carrier. Lots wrong that would need sorting to get it back to MK1 spec but some nice bits too.

I understand that part of its "problem" is its quite a long way from any main transfer points for shipping, getting carriers loaded onto a truck or into a container and moved to port can get expensive quite quickly, you then have to pay to get it home. Once you get it here you have to pay customs and get it home. I can help a little from my experience with the Scout if needed.

I can't comment on the advert itself or its its real.

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Old 18-08-13, 21:13
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It certainly looks to be based on a British carrier. Lots wrong that would need sorting to get it back to MK1 spec but some nice bits too.

I understand that part of its "problem" is its quite a long way from any main transfer points for shipping, getting carriers loaded onto a truck or into a container and moved to port can get expensive quite quickly, you then have to pay to get it home. Once you get it here you have to pay customs and get it home. I can help a little from my experience with the Scout if needed.

I can't comment on the advert itself or its its real.

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Thanks Ben, gonna give him the chance to reply n see how the land lies!

More concerned if it's a legit advert
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Old 18-08-13, 23:17
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Hi Paul, I can verify the add was and is genuine. I spoke to the owner who is an elderly chap and they did have on their farm for many years. I think it's way over priced for what is left. Transport would also be a very costly exercise from its present location. Not much on the inside is original. I guess it would still be a good starting platform at the "right" price. As far as I know it is still for sale.
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Old 19-08-13, 03:52
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It will need to go through the Moveable Cultural Heritage application and approval process before export. Don't take the risk of it being confiscated for lack of appropriate paperwork!

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Old 19-08-13, 07:08
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Hmm! possibly not
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Old 19-08-13, 07:20
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I believe it went through the proper process.
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Old 19-08-13, 07:47
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The Scout did get all the appropriate approval before it left Australia, including the movable cultural heritage approval. As Mike has said it's better to get it done correctly first. Colin is also correct in that transport can get expensive, there are better prospect carriers available for more realistic money.

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Old 19-08-13, 11:56
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Expensive at that price now that I have sat and studied the pics.... IMHO I would offer around 4500 - 5000 (which would get rejected)
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Old 25-08-13, 10:19
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Call me cynical but I detect some sour grapes from fellow MLUers.

It's not as if the Scout wasn't openly offered to all the main Australian armour collectors and Museums...

Every aspect of it's export was fully compliant with Australian Law. I would think twice before committing opinion to public forum in future...

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Old 25-08-13, 12:37
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Come on lads keep it nice......


Anyho that was a British carrier being recovered



Have you had any luck yet Paul ? Took me over a year to locate mine, then a year to battle weather and get it home...... Then so far four years to get it back to where it is....... There is a mk2 for sale in the Netherlands on milweb check it out... Might be nearer your budget, and easier to get home.
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Old 25-08-13, 14:52
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I see four carriers for sale on Milweb. A project at £8000 + and three restored at $45000 US and £50000 and £65000 GBP. Ron
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Old 25-08-13, 15:18
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Anyho that was a British carrier being recovered



Have you had any luck yet Paul ? Took me over a year to locate mine, then a year to battle weather and get it home...... Then so far four years to get it back to where it is....... There is a mk2 for sale in the Netherlands on milweb check it out... Might be nearer your budget, and easier to get home.
Ive got a few irons in the fire at moment.
The one in Oz was a good prospect, but judging by what ive been told its a bit of a dog for ther price and hassle of getting it here!
Worth it at half the price as it would cost the same again to get it here! might be a go if price reduced, got to make some calls!
The one in Netherlands has a lot of problems, and bits missing that hard to find. Whats with the shiney rivets in the armour?? New rivets or coach bolts??
Could be an armoured money pit, especially with stripped lump, like to do my own and see what im playing with!
Waiting for the thumbs up on a few being brought in, rough, not so rough and good condition! Been told these are a better option as not got taxes and transport to worry bout getting them here.
Will fit on the 71/2 tonne recovery truck also so a nice jolly jaunt out for the day and its mine!
Got two on south coast im working on too! Belong to a trust and trying to convince them that they would look better in my "trust"
One was a runner a few years ago and other they were keeping as spares, in my book no such thing as a "spares" carrier!
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Old 25-08-13, 16:49
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Got two on south coast im working on too! Belong to a trust and trying to convince them that they would look better in my "trust"
One was a runner a few years ago and other they were keeping as spares, in my book no such thing as a "spares" carrier!
They sound familiar, if it is where I think it is, they are reluctant to sell anything. Have you seen them?
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If its the carrier in the hedge your wasting your time... Kev and I both tried for sea to save that carrier and offered good money for it... Think Ben also tried, but who knows they may like your accent :

Shaun Hindle has a fantastic carrier for sale and may take part ex.
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Old 25-08-13, 17:01
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Gents ... and Phil in particular...

I made no mention of the Scout: I assumed (not having been the MCH Expert Examiner for some years now) that all was 'hunkie dory' with its export. Indeed, I've been contributing to a private email exchange about its history (with the current owner) for some time.

My post was SIMPLY to ensure that the intending exporter of the carrier that is the subject of this thread was alerted to the MCH Act and the possible implications of not following that path. Not everyone, especially overseas, knows of its provisions. Better to know than get caught up in red tape.

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Old 25-08-13, 17:27
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If its the carrier in the hedge your wasting your time... Kev and I both tried for sea to save that carrier and offered good money for it... Think Ben also tried, but who knows they may like your accent :

Shaun Hindle has a fantastic carrier for sale and may take part ex.
There might be a hedge in the photo...!!
Lots of hedges down there tho...!
Had a good chat with the bloke and he was looking into it for me, havent seen them as waiting for the outcome.
Whats Shauns carrier?
Pics, thread etc??
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Strung me along for months.... Carrier with a wrecked engine stripped and up ended in the rear hull.... All the track is shot lying in the rear hull too.... Axle and wheels are all there though and it's a mk1... Will need new track guards and floor to make it safe.......if its the same one ;-)
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Old 25-08-13, 18:48
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Strung me along for months.... Carrier with a wrecked engine stripped and up ended in the rear hull.... All the track is shot lying in the rear hull too.... Axle and wheels are all there though and it's a mk1... Will need new track guards and floor to make it safe.......if its the same one ;-)
Yeah, think we are on this same page mate, if comes about its another option and you can never have too many options when it comes to carriers!!
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Yeah it won't be an easy resto that one... Shaun's is a fully restored mk2* and is a minter, he has advertised it in the for sale section, and on milweb.
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Old 26-08-13, 18:10
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Just re read my original post for this, looked back and says sold!! Anyone on here swooped down and nabbed it on me??
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The one I am referring too was not advertised.... You have to act quickly and get deposits in things otherwise your wasting your time.
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The one I am referring too was not advertised.... You have to act quickly and get deposits in things otherwise your wasting your time.
I mean the one on gumtree in oz!
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you have to strike while the iron is hot and don't mention it on here for gods sake until after the deal is done.
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you have to strike while the iron is hot and don't mention it on here for gods sake until after the deal is done.
Lesson learnt that not all an horourable lot then!
I only posted here to find out if the advert was legit before I dived in!
Make couple calls today and see how the land lies down under!
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Lesson learnt that not all an horourable lot then!
I only posted here to find out if the advert was legit before I dived in!
Make couple calls today and see how the land lies down under!
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