Bogged Blitz Collection

[Lang]

A Blitz Bogged Collection

[Lang]

And Some More

[Lang]

Another lot. One is a ring-in!

[Tony Smith]

Don't forget this famous pic:

[Hanno Spoelstra]

I must commend the photographers for taking their pictures so quickly. We all know CMPs don’t get stuck, and if they do, they are out of the bog very soon.

[Keith Webb]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

I must commend the photographers for taking their pictures so quickly. We all know CMPs don’t get stuck, and if they do, they are out of the bog very soon.

I was going to say 'Fake News' but then there is this... admittedly it is a F15 4X2, a bit ambitious trying to cross that water.

[Tony Smith]

Originally Posted by Keith Webb

I was going to say 'Fake News' but then there is this... admittedly it is a F15 4X2, a bit ambitious trying to cross that water.

I suppose Aircrew are used to crossing water with ease. 😇 Bit trickier with their wings clipped.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Please note this Blitz IS NOT BOGGED. It is helping the Jeep to cross a stream as it started slipping once its front wheels were no longer on firm ground.



Source: https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/i...ject/205534028

[Mike Cecil]

Oh dear, that old furphy that CMPs can actually become bogged ....

Careful research, including personal interviews with various of the military personnel visible in some of the images, reveals that, due to the inability of service personnel to incapacitate and prevent forward motion of CMPs by driving into rivers and areas of muddy ground known to bog other vehicle types (GMCs, Dodges, jeeps ...), it became a wide-spread practice to stage simulated bogging events whenever a photographer appeared. The aim, as revealed by the pranksters themselves,was to deceive those future generations of military vehicle enthusiasts who express such enthusiasm for other than the mighty, unstoppable CMP!!

Duck .... incoming!

[Mike K]

Originally Posted by Keith Webb

I was going to say 'Fake News' but then there is this... admittedly it is a F15 4X2, a bit ambitious trying to cross that water.

QJ is a squadron code ?

[Mike Cecil]

QJ = 92 Sqn RAF from May 1940 to 1946. As an aside, a number of Australians served with the squadron in WW1. One pilot is the only serviceman I have ever located that served operationally with all three services during that war - started with the RAN, transferred to the AIF, then to the RFC which then became the RAF. An extraordinary service history.

[Lang]

A few More

[Keith Webb]

Originally Posted by Mike Cecil

QJ = 92 Sqn RAF from May 1940 to 1946. As an aside, a number of Australians served with the squadron in WW1. One pilot is the only serviceman I have ever located that served operationally with all three services during that war - started with the RAN, transferred to the AIF, then to the RFC which then became the RAF. An extraordinary service history.

That's interesting... Ted Sly, a 92 Sqn pilot was a regular at Temora, I interviewed him on two occasions. He was great mates with Bobby Gibbes whom he met when he was posted back here to 457 Squadron. It's interesting to hear how 'browned off' they were by the lack of action.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

This well known photo showing the off-road capabilities of the CMP truck should be in included here:

“Caption: Personnel of 2nd Canadian Infantry Division Signals with Personnel of the Royal Canadian Corps of Signals (R.C.C.S.), 2nd Canadian Infantry Division, examining a Ford three-ton truck which sank into a ditch on the Beveland Causeway, Netherlands, 27 October 1944. Source: LAC - PA-142071.”

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

This well known photo showing the off-road capabilities of the CMP truck should be in included here:

“Caption: Personnel of 2nd Canadian Infantry Division Signals with Personnel of the Royal Canadian Corps of Signals (R.C.C.S.), 2nd Canadian Infantry Division, examining a Ford three-ton truck which sank into a ditch on the Beveland Causeway, Netherlands, 27 October 1944. Source: LAC - PA-142071.”

Mark Tonner noted:

“Hanno Spoelstra, Jordan Baker - The unit mobilization serial number ‘2354/1,’ which is applied to the left-hand side of the bumper tells a different story, and identifies this truck as belonging to Headquarters, First Canadian Army Signals, Royal Canadian Corps of Signals”

[Lang]

I don't see anything there to preclude the truck being used by 2 Div Signals and the original caption being correct.

They were after all a sub-unit of 1 Canadian Army and vehicles are constantly being exchanged or loaned up and down the chain to cater for servicing, repairs or bolstering particular units for some operation. This is even more likely in this case as the "owning" unit is the Corps (as in Signals) senior unit directly above the captioned "using" unit.

I very much doubt anyone would have bothered changing the bumper markings even if the loan or transfer was permanent or even anything more formal in the vehicle records than a note "Allocated to ...... March 5 1945"

Lang

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Lang

I don't see anything there to preclude the truck being used by 2 Div Signals and the original caption being correct.

They were after all a sub-unit of 1 Canadian Army and vehicles are constantly being exchanged or loaned up and down the chain to cater for servicing, repairs or bolstering particular units for some operation. This is even more likely in this case as the "owning" unit is the Corps (as in Signals) senior unit directly above the captioned "using" unit.

I very much doubt anyone would have bothered changing the bumper markings even if the loan or transfer was permanent or even anything more formal in the vehicle records than a note "Allocated to ...... March 5 1945"

Agree, though if someone can make sense of these markings it is Mark Tonner.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Just a bit of leasurely off-roading in Indonesia, 1945-1949:


Source: http://proxy.handle.net/10648/6524b5...2-76991ee9ca43

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Ford coaching the Chevrolet to enter the water:


Source: SAAF vehicles in Italy

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

Ford coaching the Chevrolet to enter the water:

Source: SAAF vehicles in Italy

… until it was well and truly bogged!

[Tony Smith]

I like the caption: "Badly designed Amphibian". Indeed!

[Hanno Spoelstra]

“Corowa 2022 - we all got bogged”

https://youtu.be/CvOW9J6TNhw

[Allan L]

Well I got halfway through it. A beginners course in off road driving might be helpful.