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Old 18-02-12, 11:35
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Default On track for painting cab base, and repairs to rear cab wall.

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This afternoon I block sanded the wheel wells, and final primed them in readyness for top coat application tomorrow. They are certainly not perfect, and i'm no panel beater, but shouldn't be too bad once painted. A generous application of good quality seam sealer has been run along the joins where wheel arch meets floor frame.
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The rear cab panel and windscreen frame were picked up this morning. The blasting process has blown a number of holes in the lowest edge, where the rear panel overlaped onto the cab frame. This had been expected. I hope to get time to MIG weld those holes and several other areas where previous owner/s have cut openings for some reason. Please excuse the quality of first of the three rear panel photos. It was almost pitch black in the workshop and camera couldn't get a propper focal point.

I see another part number or serial number has shown up on a round disk welded to the rear panel. There will be a significant amount of metalworking required before the panel will be straight enough. Should not be a problem with getting the outside acceptable, but the inside of the panel may be very difficult to get completely straight. I have been considering spraying a light coat of stone guard on the inside of rear panel. If I do this, it would only be the flat parts of steel. The ribbing and framework would be masked off. I am in two minds about this. It wouldn't be original finish and would not look right, BUT it would hide all of the slightly bumpy areas where filler could not be applied to achieve the same finish. Might also minimise any vibration or 'drumming' which can arise from flat panels like this. It's quite a lazy way to cover imperfections but may be warranted with my panel beating skills. Thoughts anyone?????

See next posting for windscreen frame issues.
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Old 18-02-12, 12:22
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Default Windscreen frame questions

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I am a little disappointed with condition of the windscreen frame. There is substantial pitting inside the top cross rail. It won't be seen as far as I can tell, but I will have to replace the thin metal skin along the top. While at the blasters (primarily a heavy engineering works), I had them re-weld one of the vertical end pieces. Original welding had become cracked and it was nearing complete failure! N.B: In the above photo, I have allowed the panel to fall slightly forward of where it should be sitting, in order to take the photo.
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I did a trial fit to check alignment. everything aligns OK I guess, (at least at first testing) but I have an important question relating to final assembled position. In checking the total width of the two window frame openings, I have noted that the bottom would be approximately 3-4mm wider than measurement across the top. Both measurements taken from inner edge of the vertical end pieces that bolt onto the cab frame & door hinges.
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...Driver side........Mates side... (Both viewed from front of vehicle)

With reference to the two above photos, here is my question. When the vertical posts are bolted in final assembly position, should the windscreen frame posts sit flush with the alignment of the cab frame itself?

I.E: Are these posts simply bolted and pulled towards the door hinge side of the cab frame, which would leave them as they appear in the photos, or is there a spacer or packing of some kind to keep them aligned laterally flush with the cab itself????

If they are 'packed' slightly in a bit, to be flush along the vertical edge of cab frame, then measurements taken (left to right) across inner edges of the posts would then be correct and identical top to bottom. I have heaps of photos in my library, but can't find one which is good enough detail of that area for me to see properly!!!! I know this might have sounded like a daft question, but if there was a packing of 1-2mm each side, the window glass frames sit square in place. If no packing, they have a slightly wider gap at bottom. Rubber seal would cover it but doesn't look right.

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Old 18-02-12, 20:27
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Default New vehicle pics

Looking at what I can find in close ups it would seem they vary a lot, possibly due to erratic alignment of the outer sheet metal part before it is welded to the frame. I don't recall ever seeing a packer on the inside. Generally they seem to stick out a little and are often out of square.





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Old 18-02-12, 20:31
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Are the data plates that attach to the top of dashboard meant to be aluminium finish or painted color of the dash????
My understanding they were attached unpainted when new, but were covered with paint whenever the vehicle was repainted.
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Old 18-02-12, 23:52
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Default Thanks Keith!!!

Thanks Keith.

That information is exactly what I needed.

I viewing the photos you posted, it looks like an excessive amount hanging out the side could possibly foul the door top front corner. I think your first photo shows this best.

Amongst the all the doors I have here, there are at least one which has a bent out corner which matches that location. By bent out I don't mean butchered, just a little 'tweak' to make fit perhaps. I'll take a closer look today when I get the chance.

At the end of this coming week, I will be on 2/52 vacation and may make a set of 2mm shims just as a trial. If they work, they might get used. If not.......bin em!

One of my pet hates is for things out of square. Anything out of square or out of plumb will bug me. It's not a issue of the offending part has been welded and can't be moved. In that case it's considered character, but if I can easily rectify, i'm inclined to do just that.

Buying a new house is a bloody nightmare if you can't handle things that are not straight........believe me!

Once again, thanks for the reply and information.
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Old 19-02-12, 06:37
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Once again, thanks for the reply and information.
Glad to assist.
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Old 19-02-12, 10:53
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Default Cab frame is finally painted

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It took hours, and I had to put a tarpaulin over, so paint (and I) didn't cook too quickly, but it's finally painted. In hindsight, the painting was the easy bit. Getting a freshly painted, heavy, truck part into the workshop again without damaging the paint, THAT was the hard part. Managed to do it with help from my son. He should be helping too, we spent 90 minutes and a lot of money at a Ford dealer on Friday, buying his first car. He owes me until approximately 2045!
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Frame now resting on the trolley again, ready to start assembling parts. That will wait until next weekend. Grease paper laid on the beams of trolley stops the paint from sticking!
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Instead of doing all the cleaning up then moving onto welding the rear panel, I decided to finish painting the floor plates and several other bits. Unless I damage them somehow, I can brush paint the bolt heads holding plates to frame, and I won't need to spray anything inside the workshop. The dust gets everywhere!

On my two weeks off, I hope to get the nose panel repaired (some dents need beating) and doors sandblasted. Maybe even get the doors painted. Windscreen frame won't need much sorting and should be finished and attached soon.

I don't know why my camera is taking worse quality photos every time I use it. Perhaps the heat is cooking it. I know it's cooking me!!!
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