Kangaroo Photos wanted

[kevinT]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

Kevin,

Do you have a listing for TYRANT?

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Hi Hanno,

Only the census CT 160052 and was part of F Squadron.

Cheers

Kevin

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by kevinT

Only the census CT 160052 and was part of F Squadron.

Hi Kevin, thank you!

[Alex van de Wetering]

Originally Posted by kevinT

Hi Hanno,

Only the census CT 160052 and was part of F Squadron.

Cheers

Kevin

Nice work on the model, Kevin!

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

TARANTULA also appears in a colorized video on youtube, shot at 't Woold: “Liberation Route East Holland in full-color - April 1945" - https://youtu.be/zgiqBwVWcKk

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This is a clear example of why I don't like colorized black and white footage.......someone made a guesstimate about the colour of the RAM.....brown, green? Or was it red?

[Ed Storey]

I agree with Alex, I despise colourized photographs as I consider them to be nothing more then a guess by the 'artist'. They actually distract from the historical record and unfortunately now show up everywhere with little to no information stating that the image has been altered. The worst thing is that the museum community, the people who should know better, have bought into the colourization process.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by kevinT

Only the census CT 160052 and was part of F Squadron.

I posted this photo of TYRANT CT-160052 to which Bill Miller replied:
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“After the battle... Tyrant is one of 7 kangaroos of F Squadron, 49APCR knocked out. All named beginning with 'T' (Tarmois, Tapir, Taunt, Tarantula, Tiger, Tyrant & Terror).”
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[kevinT]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

I posted this photo of TYRANT CT-160052 to which Bill Miller replied:
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“After the battle... Tyrant is one of 7 kangaroos of F Squadron, 49APCR knocked out. All named beginning with 'T' (Tarmois, Tapir, Taunt, Tarantula, Tiger, Tyrant & Terror).”
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TARMOIS, TAUNT, TIGER and TERROR are all new to me, are there any photos of these?

Cheers

Kevin

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by kevinT

TARMOIS, TAUNT, TIGER and TERROR are all new to me, are there any photos of these?

Kevin, let me check with Bill Miller who posted that info.

[Bill Miller]

Originally Posted by kevinT

TARMOIS, TAUNT, TIGER and TERROR are all new to me, are there any photos of these?

Hi Kevin, the named list of the seven knocked out Kangaroos at Winterswijk came from a local Dutch historian who also had access to primary documents, accounts and photos (many of which have already been posted here).

I cannot confirm photos of the four names mentioned above. There are photos of a couple other hulls, but the names painted on them cannot be made out clearly.

This hull (T11), I believe, is either Terror or Tiger. According to a detailed infantry account, this kangaroo brewed up immediately and a number of the infantry passengers were burned badly, including one burned to death. Of the kangaroo crewmen in this column, 8 ORs were wounded and Sgt. KFA Webber was killed. In the photo, you can see another Kangaroo in the upper right corner, near a farm building. That is CT40694 Tarantula.

Bill.

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[kevinT]

Originally Posted by Bill Miller

Hi Kevin, the named list of the seven knocked out Kangaroos at Winterswijk came from a local Dutch historian who also had access to primary documents, accounts and photos (many of which have already been posted here).

I cannot confirm photos of the four names mentioned above. There are photos of a couple other hulls, but the names painted on them cannot be made out clearly.

This hull (T11), I believe, is either Terror or Tiger. According to a detailed infantry account, this kangaroo brewed up immediately and a number of the infantry passengers were burned badly, including one burned to death. Of the kangaroo crewmen in this column, 8 ORs were wounded and Sgt. KFA Webber was killed. In the photo, you can see another Kangaroo in the upper right corner, near a farm building. That is CT40694 Tarantula.

Bill.

Hi Bill thanks for replying. So do you think that I would be safe in taking the names as accurate., if so I will add them to my database name list and credited to you.

I have tried manipulating the photo but the name is too blurred to be sure it could TAUNT or TERROR but impossible to be sure.

Cheers

Kevin

[Bill Miller]

Originally Posted by kevinT

Hi Bill thanks for replying. So do you think that I would be safe in taking the names as accurate.

Yes, I think you could take them as accurate, considering it was from a primary source and what little photographic evidence there is, corroborates part of the list.

I was going through the 49APCR war diary the other night and found an action report for this incident that also corroborates the account from a veteran of the Ox & Bucks. Sadly, neither the 49APCR diary or the 49APCR Workshop diary records the name or census number of a single Kangaroo APC, they're actually worse than the 1CACR diaries... so really all we have to go on, are 3rd party period documents/letters and photos.

Bill.

[kevinT]

Originally Posted by Bill Miller

Yes, I think you could take them as accurate, considering it was from a primary source and what little photographic evidence there is, corroborates part of the list.

I was going through the 49APCR war diary the other night and found an action report for this incident that also corroborates the account from a veteran of the Ox & Bucks. Sadly, neither the 49APCR diary or the 49APCR Workshop diary records the name or census number of a single Kangaroo APC, they're actually worse than the 1CACR diaries... so really all we have to go on, are 3rd party period documents/letters and photos.

Bill.

Hi Bill Thanks for confirming that. I will add them to my list.

This is what I have so far for 1 CACR:-

A Sqn
Helen, Laura-Mae 3Tp, Lollypop 3Tp, Lonesome Joe, Marion CT159891,

B Sqn
Alice, Buckshee, Butch 3Tp CT160122, Butcher 3Tp CT159493, Fame 3Tp CT160098, Fearless, Ferocious, Fortune, Irene, Hairless Joe HQ, Tp, Jackie, Joan, II and III CT159873, Joan-Margot, Lili Marlene CT160100, Lois, Min 3Tp, Pat 3Tp CT160024, Patty, Pearl, Red Chief, Ruby-Flo 3Tp, Tee-Mick 3 Tp CT160041, Thunder 3 Tp CT159496

C Sqn
Cobault CT159954

Yokum Tp
Daisy-Mae, Granny Yokum, Lil Abner, Lil Sue, Mammy Yokum, Pappy Yokum

Un-confirmed Sqn
Canada, Defiant CT40640, Eileen, Enid, Fatima, Frisky, Happy, Karla, Norma, Phyllis CT160065, Siska, Violet. Too many un-matched census numbers to be listed here. I will post them later.

For 49th APCR I have:-

A Sqn
Anarchist CT40761, Armadillo CT40703, Arsenic CT40657, Assassin CT40347, Blackpool CT40856, Brighton CT40491, Brighton II, Bull CT40601, Callous, Captor, Charger, Cod CT40576, Comet CT40189,

C Sqn
King John, Leicester?, Liberator, Mars CT40730, Merlin CT40458, Neptune, Nero, Nightjar II

F Sqn
Olympian CT40709, Raider, Revenge, Rotherham, Sailor, Spear, Tapir CT39862, Tarantula, Tarmois, Taunt, Terror, Tiger, Todmorden, Tyrant.

Un-confimed
Diana CT40372, CT40592, CT40636

Cheers

Kevin