Sensible laws for teachers in Toronto..

[Alex Blair (RIP)]

This certainly makes sense for Toronto teachers..
Anyone want to forward it to Toronto's mayor...??


Front Sight Firearms Training Institute: Gun School for Arizona Teachers

Leader in Firearms Training Pledges to Train All AZ Teachers Saving Taxpayers Millions in Law Enforcement Costs

Dr. Ignatius Piazza Founder and Director Front Sight Firearms Training Institute

LAS VEGAS, NV--(Marketwire - February 5, 2008) - In response to Arizona Senate Bill 1214, which would exempt concealed-carry permit holders from a state law that bars individuals from knowingly carrying deadly weapons onto school property, Dr. Ignatius Piazza -- founder and director of Front Sight Firearms Training Institute near Las Vegas , NV -- has committed to provide every Arizona School teacher with a $2,000, Four Day Defensive Handgun Course, free of charge if Arizona lawmakers will pass the Senate Bill 1214.

If it becomes law, the measure would allow teachers to carry their weapon onto the grounds of any public or private K-12 school, college or university in the state. Dr. Piazza wants to put the Arizona public and legislators' minds at ease in passing the measure by training all school teachers free of charge to levels that exceed law enforcement standards.

Ignatius Piazza states, "Every time sanity begins to prevail with good legislators like Arizona Senate Majority Leader Thayer Verschoor and Senator Karen Johnson introducing a real solution to protect our children from a violent attack, the unenlightened begin crying about their fear of teachers with guns. The same people who don't want teachers with guns are happy to have more cops on campus at tax payers' expense. Front Sight Firearms Training Institute will train teachers who secure a Concealed Carry Permit to levels that exceed law enforcement standards, giving Arizona Public Schools immediate and trained armed response to violent attack and save Arizona tax payers millions of dollars."

But Rep. David Lujan, a Phoenix Democrat and president of the Phoenix Union High School District board, said he is "uncomfortable with having weapons on school campuses." In the context of a school shooting, for example, he said the prospect of additional weapons in the hands of faculty or even students could "exacerbate the situation" when police arrive on scene and are trying to quickly identify the assailant.

Piazza responds, "Representative Lujan simply needs to take Front Sight's Four Day Defensive Handgun Course and he would walk away knowing he has the proper decision making ability in the judicious use of deadly force and the handgun skills to stop a deadly attacker immediately, safely and responsibly. He would then have the same confidence in any of his Arizona teachers who completed Front Sight's course." Piazza adds, "When police arrive on the scene it will be very easy for them to identify the assailant. He will be the only dead body because an armed teacher stopped a potential massacre as soon as it started."

From the hundreds of testimonials from law enforcement officers who have attended Front Sight Firearms Training Institute near Las Vegas, claiming it is the best firearms training they have ever received, it appears Ignatius Piazza can deliver on his promise to train Arizona teachers to levels that exceed law enforcement standards. The fact that he will provide the firearms training free should make the Millionaire Patriot's offer very hard for teachers, schools districts or legislators to decline.

Front Sight Firearms Training Institute founder and director, Dr. Ignatius Piazza is known by his hundreds of thousands of students as the "Millionaire Patriot" because over the last 11 years Dr. Piazza has provided tens of millions of dollars in training and benefits free of charge to assist law-abiding citizens in securing what he refers to as the "Comfort of Skill at Arms."



Additional Information can be found at:

http://www.frontsight.com/free-gun.asp
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http://www.ignatiuspiazza.com/ignatius-piazza.html
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http://www.ignatiuspiazzafrontsight.com/

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[Shayne]

If my child were attending school in AZ I would be adamantly opposed!!! When did we, as a society, start being reactive rather than proactive?
"...only dead body" indeed! All arming a teacher does is make them the first target. Guy at the back pulls his weapon and aims... and the teacher does what? Dies. This isn't the Wild West!!! It's reality. How much of a hurry do you think the other teachers are going to be in to confront the gunman? Remember most teachers are female. So in a flood of panicked students the gunman knows who the teachers are but the teachers don't know who the gunman is.
Why don't we just stick the teachers in bulletproof cages... or better yet stick all desks inside their own bulletproof cage.
Doesn't anybody actually think before they come up with these insane schemes!?
How about we keep guns out of children's hands and out of schools and make parents and society accountable. I know, too much work and no emotion rousing results.
More stirring up panic and fear when we have enough crap to try to wade through in finding out what is real and what isn't.

[sapper740]

Shayne When did we, as a society, start being reactive rather than proactive?

Shayne, I believe this measure falls under the latter, not the former.



Anyway, this isn't your society, it's mine and I thank God we have law makers with the common sense to realize that keeping firearms out of the hands of law abiding citizens is counter productive to fighting crime and decreasing the number of "Gun free zones" also decreases the number of easy targets for criminals and crazies.

I have a question for you, Shayne and for other Antis in Canada:

" How are all the increasingly stringent gun control laws in Canada working out for you?"

We all know the answer to that question don't we.

[sapper740]

Originally Posted by Alex Blair

But Rep. David Lujan, a Phoenix Democrat and president of the Phoenix Union High School District board, said he is "uncomfortable with having weapons on school campuses." In the context of a school shooting, for example, he said the prospect of additional weapons in the hands of faculty or even students could "exacerbate the situation" when police arrive on scene and are trying to quickly identify the assailant.

ASSAILANT IDENTIFICATION


I'm a Police Officer responding to a report of shots fired at a school.

Let's see, there are two people with guns, one of whom is shooting unarmed, defenseless children with glee. The other is trying to protect the children and is only firing their gun at the person who is gleefully shooting unarmed, defenseless children. Who should I shoot? I'm confused.

GET REAL PEOPLE!

[Shayne]

Arming teachers is PROACTIVE!? You actually believe this!? I don't even know how to respond to that. I don't know how anyone can consider guns around 5 year olds (or even 12 year-olds!) proactive or responsible. I don't know how you, as a police officer, believe all teachers are stable and responsible.
I do know you make a lot of assumptions in a short response.
One is that you have managed to label me based on one response to one post.
I do believe guns have their place. I just don't believe it is hidden under the sport jacket or in the purse of an educator inside a public school. Especially not one my child is attending!!

[sapper740]

Originally Posted by Shayne

Arming teachers is PROACTIVE!? You actually believe this!? I don't even know how to respond to that. I don't know how anyone can consider guns around 5 year olds (or even 12 year-olds!) proactive or responsible. I don't know how you, as a police officer, believe all teachers are stable and responsible.
I do know you make a lot of assumptions in a short response.
One is that you have managed to label me based on one response to one post.
I do believe guns have their place. I just don't believe it is hidden under the sport jacket or in the purse of an educator inside a public school. Especially not one my child is attending!!

Shayne, this isn't the proper forum for us to engage in a debate on gun control. There is a very good forum www.canadiangunutz.com where I can often be found and would be more than pleased to discuss these issues with you.

[Shayne]

Originally Posted by sapper740

Shayne, this isn't the proper forum for us to engage in a debate on gun control. There is a very good forum www.canadiangunutz.com where I can often be found and would be more than pleased to discuss these issues with you.

I have no interest in discussing gun control any more than I do about discussing religion or politics. The thread is about arming teachers!!!

[chris vickery]

If they outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns... Truer words have never been spoken.
I for one, believe that in Canada, an apparently "free" nation, that I should have the right to carry a firearm. Our left wing government sees otherwise.

I know far too many law enforcement officers that could barely hit a barndoor with a bucket of s**t, let alone with a pistol bullet. These are the same guys who are supposed to protect us, yet show up after the carnage to mop up the scene... Not their fault afterall, every time they pull their gun a pile of paperwork results. As long as they qualify once per year on the range they get a bye and its off for another year. On the same token, I know many responsible target shooters who ply their hobby on a weekly basis. ask me who'd I'd rather have my back and its real easy.

Considering the fact that this firm is offering to train teachers in excess of what law enforcement personnel receive, I say bravo. Its about time someone steps to the plate by being "proactive". Unfortunately today our society has to stoop to such measures. If you recall the last US massacre, there were "no guns allowed on campus". How many dead was that again???

I know one thing for sure. In light of the most recent car jackings in Toronto, those punks may have thought twice about their victims if the idea of armed resistance was possible. Same goes for many US States where law abiding citizens can carry a weapon. The stats are out there; in states where concealed weapon carry is legal the trend leans in favour of the victim...I for one would be happy to know that someone has the security of my kids in mind.

[Rich Payne]

I've been sitting here quietly trying to picture my teachers in 1970s England attempting to cope with a firearm and quite frankly it's scary. Probably the least mentally stable group of people I've ever come across !

Most of them couldn't even aim a cuff round the ear and make sure it connected and the idea of them launching anything more dangerous than a board rubber down the classroom doesn't bear thinking about.

I guarantee that most of us were capable of being cheeky enough to make a couple of them at least start shooting

[Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP)]

Keep it civil, gentlemen, thank you.

I will have some comments to make this evening...