Ram Kangaroo Restoration

[tankbarrell]

CT159577 is not shop number 1141. That was a late Ram with Sherman bogies and ball mount. David Herbert has 1141 as CT40921.

[servicepub (RIP)]

I will have to add some explanation of 'shop' numbers vs 'CT'umbers and 'TKC' numbers to my web-site. There is a direct corelation between CT and shop numbers (I have to find this but the original research was done by Dave Herbert and I trust his analysis). This corelation was important as any modifications made on the assembly line (shop number) had to be translateable to a sequential identifier that readily identified a specific tank (CT number).
The TKC number appers to have been used as a shipping conttrol number only. As can be seen by the numbers listed on RamTank.ca, these TKC numbers are not sequential and there is no direct corelation with either the shop or CT numbers. Clear as mud?

[carl brown]

Here are a few pics of what we have started with !

[servicepub (RIP)]

Your shop number 1141 translates as CT40921. Here is what RamTank.ca shows;
Oct 1944, shown as a Cruiser, held in stock
July 1945, shown as Struck Off Strength to the British
no photo on the database (yet)

I have added a section on numbering to the site and, thanks to Bill Miller's documentation, can now explain discrepancies in the first 31 MkI Rams.

http://www.ramtank.ca/ramcensus.htm

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Sorry, I was working away from home when I posted my remark about the CT number and made a mistake correlating it to that TKC number. I should have known better.

I have now checked my sources, including David Herbert's notes, and can confirm Shop Number 1141 has Census Number CT-40921. It was built December 1943. It was one of the very last Ram tanks built with M3 Medium Tank transmission, final drive and bogies. CT-40937 was the last one built in this configuration.
From Shop Number 1158 /CT-159402 onwards the Ram tank was fitted with M4 Medium tank final drive and bogies.

Carl, I presume your Ram hulk came off Pirbright ranges, too?

Hope this helps,
Hanno

[carl brown]

Hanno. It didn't come from pirbright this time. It came from Fingringhoe Ranges, Colchester, Essex along with a later hull with ball machine gun in the front.

[servicepub (RIP)]

Carl,
Can I use some of your photos for my web site? Also, you may wish to visit a new section at RamTank.ca which shows a number of Ram interior shots.

[maple_leaf_eh]

Originally Posted by carl brown

Hanno. It didn't come from pirbright this time. It came from Fingringhoe Ranges, Colchester, Essex along with a later hull with ball machine gun in the front.

Sometime ago I had a link to a photo page that was a gallery that some intrepid photographer took of hard targets on UK ranges. He drove down the access roads in several training areas, GPS recording and snapping photos. The preamble included some warning about post 9-11 access being very difficult. Don't know what it was called (or I still have the link but don't recognize what it does.) Anybody recognize this story?

Similarly, are there any websites that list rifle ranges in the UK? I surfed onto one once reading about .50 cal target rifle shooting clubs.