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03-02-10, 16:26
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Morning Mike
 This is a great thing your doing for the hobby, I know WWII was a long time ago but it kinda surprises me they dont have any of there own samples left from that period if its the same Co. who did it back than, which in itself is amazing in this modern age. I just hope the Khaki brown OD is dead flat as thats what will be going on my F15A one day, and now I have a CDN supplier, things cant get much better........ unless they do the zinc primer too !  cheers from mild 1C foggy Nelson BC, Canada 
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03-02-10, 18:29
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Paint
A couple of you have asked why the old codes from the company are not used. Just to keep you in the picture here is the following explanation(s).
M&W although still in production has changed hands from the previous owners due to that ever continueing saga of getting old. The gentlemen who were in business during the 40's no longer reside in this dimension. The company although very proud of its lineage did not, back in the 50s or 60s have any further use for material, data etc from the wartime production era. As with most companies they look forward and the past although important is not always a priority. Take Ford of Canada and their archives....no one is looking after that section of the company and they really do not give a damn. They are trying to survive in todays market, but I digress. With newer pigments, fixers and processes even with the old codes it may not be possible to exact the conditions and contents. Thus my journey and with the cooperation of the hobby at large I will endeavour to provide a source for that all important last stage of restoration....PAINT. tschuss alles aus die heimat der Ford CMP Mike Timoshyk
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04-02-10, 07:34
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CMP paint
Mike,
I am glad you brought up the subject of paint for CMP's as I will need to find a source and a proper color to paint my Ford CMP ambulance and all I have to go on as far as an original color is the seat frames.The covers protected the paint from fading and looks like a semi gloss green?On the inside storage compartment of the ambulance box seems to be the same color.Is this proper for a CMP to be painted for a 1944 production.If it is,the best thing for me to do is bring in the seat frame to the paint shop and have them scan and mix the paint from the seat sample or is there a company in Winnipeg I can go to that has the proper code recorded I can go to?Thanks, Derk. 
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1942 Ford universal carrier Mk 1 1943 Ford 60 cwt long CMP ambulance 1943 Ford GPW 1/4 ton stretcher jeep 1943 Bantam T-3 1/4 ton trailer BSA folding airborne bicycle ser#R5325 (early)
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05-02-10, 01:00
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amulance color
Hi Derek,
I am no expert on paint and can only give you my opinion. My request for matches outlines my desire to learn more. With regards to your seat frames, what a great example of what appears to be original paint. I have noticed in other shots that pics on the web don't always reflect the actual color under natural light. Same goes for taking pics under flouresent light. All the same you seen to have an nice example in which to get a color match. Best of luck on your journey.... cheers Mike
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05-02-10, 01:27
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Not semi-gloss
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As to the colour, Mike is right, it's hard to tell from a digital photo. For what it's worth, it appears to be 'khaki'. A 1944 CMP 'should' be 'Canadian' olive drab (Not, US O.D. Mike is matching the Canadian colour as we speak). I've had three or four 1944 Chevs that clearly were 'Khaki No.3' which by the book shouldn't be. Another thing to consider is that not all the part on a CMP were necessarily the same colour. Parts like seats, running boards, etc. were often assembled in the factory from a stockpile of the 'old colour' parts, or added later to the truck. Last edited by Bruce Parker (RIP); 05-02-10 at 01:51.
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05-02-10, 17:09
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Different shades.....
One US supplier......TM9RDNACE.COM..... has quite a display on their site showing the same truck under sunlight, cloudy day, even different angle and the truck shows different shades of the same paint....... and that is only according to my Oculary perception on my specific computer screen.....
..... and like Mike said if the truck was assembled from a stock of previously painted parts and or serviced in a repair center....plus some fading and wear...... some wise ass will walk up to your truck and will always disagree that you have the wrong shade.............good luck..... Bob C.
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Bob Carriere....B.T.B C15a Cab 11 Hammond, Ontario Canada
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06-02-10, 02:33
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06-02-10, 02:49
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That's because.....
.... when we shipped Aussie parts by boat from Canada we knew most of it would be sunk before it got there so we took a chance and painted them with whatever we had available...... it's a good thing the pink and orange shipment did sink or you guys would be driving funny looking CMPs.
Boob
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Bob Carriere....B.T.B C15a Cab 11 Hammond, Ontario Canada
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06-02-10, 06:51
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Matt paint
Bruce,
I was wondering the same thing,if the seat cover rubbed the paint to give it a glossy look.When I took off the front fender,a square of original paint was still there and it seemed the same color but definitely a matt finish to it.I will now use the fender paint sample to match the paint,unless Mike can find in his search a proper paint code to use.It is going to be cold here for awhile and won't be painting anything for months yet so I have time to find a proper shade to use.I am glad it turned out to be matt paint as I like that look better on an army vehicle.My problem is it will have to be stored outside for the next few years until I can afford to build a garage to store my vehicles in and would want a durable paint that won't sun fade bad.If I tarp it,the wind will rub the paint in certain spots and either polish or remove the paint.Any suggestions on what brand of paint is the most durable to use?Oh and don't worry about runs in the paint,that's a guarantee when I paint! Derk.
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1942 Ford universal carrier Mk 1 1943 Ford 60 cwt long CMP ambulance 1943 Ford GPW 1/4 ton stretcher jeep 1943 Bantam T-3 1/4 ton trailer BSA folding airborne bicycle ser#R5325 (early)
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