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Mike,
I am glad you brought up the subject of paint for CMP's as I will need to find a source and a proper color to paint my Ford CMP ambulance and all I have to go on as far as an original color is the seat frames.The covers protected the paint from fading and looks like a semi gloss green?On the inside storage compartment of the ambulance box seems to be the same color.Is this proper for a CMP to be painted for a 1944 production.If it is,the best thing for me to do is bring in the seat frame to the paint shop and have them scan and mix the paint from the seat sample or is there a company in Winnipeg I can go to that has the proper code recorded I can go to?Thanks, Derk.
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1942 Ford universal carrier Mk 1 1943 Ford 60 cwt long CMP ambulance 1943 Ford GPW 1/4 ton stretcher jeep 1943 Bantam T-3 1/4 ton trailer BSA folding airborne bicycle ser#R5325 (early) |
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Hi Derek,
I am no expert on paint and can only give you my opinion. My request for matches outlines my desire to learn more. With regards to your seat frames, what a great example of what appears to be original paint. I have noticed in other shots that pics on the web don't always reflect the actual color under natural light. Same goes for taking pics under flouresent light. All the same you seen to have an nice example in which to get a color match. Best of luck on your journey.... cheers Mike |
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As to the colour, Mike is right, it's hard to tell from a digital photo. For what it's worth, it appears to be 'khaki'. A 1944 CMP 'should' be 'Canadian' olive drab (Not, US O.D. Mike is matching the Canadian colour as we speak). I've had three or four 1944 Chevs that clearly were 'Khaki No.3' which by the book shouldn't be. Another thing to consider is that not all the part on a CMP were necessarily the same colour. Parts like seats, running boards, etc. were often assembled in the factory from a stockpile of the 'old colour' parts, or added later to the truck. Last edited by Bruce Parker (RIP); 05-02-10 at 02:51. |
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One US supplier......TM9RDNACE.COM..... has quite a display on their site showing the same truck under sunlight, cloudy day, even different angle and the truck shows different shades of the same paint....... and that is only according to my Oculary perception on my specific computer screen.....
..... and like Mike said if the truck was assembled from a stock of previously painted parts and or serviced in a repair center....plus some fading and wear...... some wise ass will walk up to your truck and will always disagree that you have the wrong shade.............good luck..... Bob C.
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Bob Carriere....B.T.B C15a Cab 11 Hammond, Ontario Canada |
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The NOS cab 12 Ford doors I found years ago were in semi gloss .... the green was painted straight over bare metal..no primer ... these doors came from Camberwell .... as did NOS cab 11 windscreen frames wrapped in paper found at Drews yard .. same finish semi gloss green...
Mike
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1940 cab 11 C8 1940 Morris-Commercial PU 1941 Morris-Commercial CS8 1940 Chev. 15cwt GS Van ( Aust.) 1942-45 Jeep salad |
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.... when we shipped Aussie parts by boat from Canada we knew most of it would be sunk before it got there so we took a chance and painted them with whatever we had available...... it's a good thing the pink and orange shipment did sink or you guys would be driving funny looking CMPs.
Boob
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Bob Carriere....B.T.B C15a Cab 11 Hammond, Ontario Canada |
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Bruce,
I was wondering the same thing,if the seat cover rubbed the paint to give it a glossy look.When I took off the front fender,a square of original paint was still there and it seemed the same color but definitely a matt finish to it.I will now use the fender paint sample to match the paint,unless Mike can find in his search a proper paint code to use.It is going to be cold here for awhile and won't be painting anything for months yet so I have time to find a proper shade to use.I am glad it turned out to be matt paint as I like that look better on an army vehicle.My problem is it will have to be stored outside for the next few years until I can afford to build a garage to store my vehicles in and would want a durable paint that won't sun fade bad.If I tarp it,the wind will rub the paint in certain spots and either polish or remove the paint.Any suggestions on what brand of paint is the most durable to use?Oh and don't worry about runs in the paint,that's a guarantee when I paint! Derk.
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1942 Ford universal carrier Mk 1 1943 Ford 60 cwt long CMP ambulance 1943 Ford GPW 1/4 ton stretcher jeep 1943 Bantam T-3 1/4 ton trailer BSA folding airborne bicycle ser#R5325 (early) |
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The inside of my mk1 carrier spare barrel stowage box also had that semi gloss brown/green color on it. I thought that it might have been the il from the canvas or the polishing effect of the canvas on the Derk's seat frame, but the semi gloss seems to work right around the tubes of the seat frame.
![]() A semi gloss paint is certainly a lot less porous than a flat color. Personally, when I am using automotive paint on my carrier, I simply use a lessor level of reducer (such as paint thinner) to flatten the colour from the gloss paint. It's a lot cheaper than reducer, and a heck of a lot cheaper than the flattening agents. Last edited by rob love; 07-02-10 at 06:31. |
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