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Old 04-02-10, 12:03
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Rogier,

I went through your list of vehicles, but cannot see the Standard Utility Truck listed, only Austin Utility Trucks.

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In the beforementioned 'opgave auto- en motormaterieel' (Nationaal Archief Toegangsnummer 2.13.71 - Inv.No. 855) the following vehicle types are mentioned (dated 26 March 1943):

- car 2-str 4x2 utility Austin

- Austin Utility 4 str

- Austin Ten util
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Old 04-02-10, 20:32
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Hanno,

thanks for identifying the car in the photo. The Standard Utility indeed does not appear to be in this list. My thoughts are twofold:
1. the list is from March 1943, the photo from 1945;
2. the vehicle does not belong to the Irene Brigade, but probably to the staff of 'Bevelhebber Nederlandse Strijdkrachten'. For comparison I attached a photo of Prins Bernhard's Mercedes.
(http://www.haagsebeeldbank.nl/hga:col1:dat246344)
MercedesBen.jpg

I also found a photo of an Allied Opel Blitz in The Hague. According to the caption it is Canadian. Unfortunately unit markings are not clearly visible, however the marking on the left fender does look like the Irene Brigade marking.

Rogier

http://www.haagsebeeldbank.nl/hga:col1:dat246553
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Old 04-02-10, 22:16
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Hanno,

the photo that you originally started this topic with is also available in High-resolution:
http://www.haagsebeeldbank.nl/hga:col1:dat246646

The census number is H5558309.

At the Nederlands Fotomuseum website I found a photo showing a White Scoutcar, also the census number can be seen. I have attached this photo for easy reference.
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Old 05-02-10, 10:10
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the photo that you originally started this topic with is also available in High-resolution:
http://www.haagsebeeldbank.nl/hga:col1:dat246646

The census number is H5558309.

H5558309.JPG
Edit - inserted new link to source: https://haagsgemeentearchief.nl/medi...1-01985adb472a
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Rogier,

Thanks. One month later H5558309 was also pictured in Amsterdam!

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Another FGT with census number H5558309 during the "Defilé der Zegepraal der Canadezen", 29 June 1945, at the Dam, Amsterdam.
fgt_amsterdam.jpg

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Edit - inserted new link to source: https://haagsgemeentearchief.nl/medi...1-01985adb472a
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Rogier,

Thanks. One month later H5558309 was also pictured in Amsterdam!

Hanno
Great pics, thanks for Sharing!
Extra small spare tire for Limber and Gun?
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Old 01-12-20, 16:16
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Great pics, thanks for Sharing!
Extra small spare tire for Limber and Gun?
Yes, a spare 20" wheel for the tractor and a spare 16" wheel for the limber or gun.
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Old 05-02-10, 10:08
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thanks for identifying the car in the photo. The Standard Utility indeed does not appear to be in this list. My thoughts are twofold:
1. the list is from March 1943, the photo from 1945;
2. the vehicle does not belong to the Irene Brigade, but probably to the staff of 'Bevelhebber Nederlandse Strijdkrachten'. For comparison I attached a photo of Prins Bernhard's Mercedes.
Rogier, either option could be true, though I would place my bets on it being with the PIB. Like you said, the picture was made two years after the vehicle stock list was drawn up. By that time the "F.A. Guy tractor" was replaced by the Ford FGT as we have seen here.

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I also found a photo of an Allied Opel Blitz in The Hague. According to the caption it is Canadian. Unfortunately unit markings are not clearly visible, however the marking on the left fender does look like the Irene Brigade marking.
Most likely PIB too, although the Canadians were renowed for "liberating" equipment.

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Old 05-02-10, 18:50
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Rogier, either option could be true, though I would place my bets on it being with the PIB. Like you said, the picture was made two years after the vehicle stock list was drawn up. By that time the "F.A. Guy tractor" was replaced by the Ford FGT as we have seen here.
Hanno,

thanks for your comments. However the Standard Utility does not bear Irene Brigade markings, neither does the unit number '120' seem to be one of the brigade's units.

Does anyone have some thoughts on the Opel's rear body? It does not seem to be a standard cargo bay.
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Old 03-07-10, 23:16
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Two more pictures of FGTs, H5558307 and H5558311, from www.beeldbankwo2.nl

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Beeldnummer: 203916 en 203918
Collectie: Stadsarchief Amsterdam
Beeld Datum: 31-05-1945
Trefwoorden: Huldigingen; Parades; Prinses Irene Brigade; Voertuigen
Geografie: Amsterdam; Noord-Holland; Nederland
Beeldsoort: Foto
Auteur/Fotograaf: J.W. Hofman
Gebruiksrechten: Stadsarchief Amsterdam
Gewijzigd: 18-05-2010

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Old 13-09-10, 18:33
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This picture, found on the Prinses Irene Brigade museum website - www.fuseliers.net - clearly shows a CMP truck in the background.

While Rogier's listings does not specifically confirm nor exclude CMPs, we need do some more research to find out if CMP trucks were actually used by the Brigade.

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Old 08-12-10, 10:45
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Fordson WOT2 found on http://www.gemeentearchiefroosendaal.nl.

Picture was taken in July 1945 and it is labelled as a border patrol truck.

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Titel: Roosendaal: Grensbewakerstruck op de Markt; Rina Goyvaert, Mientje van 't Westende, Truus Nielen zittend op motor
Nummer: K16017
Afdeling: Gemeentearchief Roosendaal
Datum inhoud: juli
Jaar inhoud: 1945

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