MLVW sightings

[Wpns 421]

I was speaking to the owner of Prefair in Montreal and he told me that he has been in contact in reference to buying all the MLVWs in quebec and Ontario. He has sent several letters but no replies have been received. I have spoken to a few people and they have told me that bases are putting MLs into a compound and units are cannabalizing them to keep the fleet going.
I was told by a Provincial policeman that in Quebec the SAAQ controls all VINs and I probably could have a registration as a artisanal truck, to have this I would have to change the engine, transmission and do a modification to the frame such as shortning or in my case removing an axle.
He then said he would sign a paper and the license office would issue a new VIN. What I did after I got the registration was my decision. So to get this let's buy a MLVW BOB it, shorten the frame, remove an axle etc.
Believe me, my head hurts from banging it on the wall but I am a masochist and will keep trying to find a loophole.
What we are seeing with the MLVW will probably be the fate all all Cdn MVs.
For those that don't know the Cdn M113 and AVGP family are in a compound somewhere and their fate is in the hands of a US company who is trying to sell them to other countries, I have called them to buy a M113. No Luck

[Scott Bentley]

Well, I can confirm that here in Gagetown exists such a compound that contains all of the old M113, M548, M577, M109 (yup), MLVW and anything else that is PCC from LFAA. You get the feeling that none of these are waiting for an auction, but something worse, and are extremely dilapidated, especially the MLVWs. Many don't have Glass and the rear Tarps and Superstructures are all caved in from ice buildup. Looks like a junk yard. Honestly, if I was really after an ML, I'd look further west. Even the ones we still have at the Unit are in very sad shape from the salt and hard winters.

The one that I have left in my Troop has either been towed or limped home the few times we've had it out lately. Hate to say it, but the Mighty ML is finally worn out. The MSVS isn't making any friends either. The MLs keep disappearing, and the new ones have spent most of their time grounded for mods.

[rob love]

The Canadian military usually does not treat the PCC'd vehicles as anything of value. I bought M38A1s that had sat so long the fuel pumps would not work.....got them for a song. Meanwhle if it had a tarp it would go for 2 to 3 times the price. When I saw the Germans selling their Mungas here in Manitoba, they came complete with all their tarps, and even the tools etc were all still in their place. When you buy Cdn surplus vehicles, you are usually lucky if it has batteries.

I would not be surprised to see the MLVWs wait a year or three before being sold off, if that's still the plan. The old deuces went the same way. Although prices were fairly high on them initially, they were going for only around $600 each towards the end. Many also went to ranges as targets. Even some Iltis went to the ranges here as targets. That made me happy. I did not like the Iltis.

[alleramilitaria]

the problem down here is that the disposal action is now put in the inital contracts. thats why there are so few hummers in civilian hands, and no more to be sold. and the US state dept now retains a small percent of ownership of nearly all military gear made, sold, given, or loaned out now.

and of some intrest i think SEACO (yes the ones with the T16s) are the ones trying to sell all the CA armor. good luck to them, if they dont sell it soon you are looking at another reaf project in the makeing.

[maple_leaf_eh]

Originally Posted by Wpns 421

I was speaking to the owner of Prefair in Montreal and he told me that he has been in contact in reference to buying all the MLVWs in quebec and Ontario.

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For those that don't know the Cdn M113 and AVGP family are in a compound somewhere and their fate is in the hands of a US company who is trying to sell them to other countries, I have called them to buy a M113. No Luck

Actually several compounds in various conditions.
http://www.smithconsultinggroup.net/

[Marc Montgomery]

I know a guy who has a very nice Cdn MLVW, but he could not licence it..I believe the release paper said for scrap only and with that designation (in Quebec) you simply can not change it even if you create a 100 point vehicle.
To get around it he had to import the Amercan version, transfer the Cdn cab and box onto the the US frame, and then he was able to get plates for it. (probably a bit more to the story than that, but essentially thats it)

His thoughts were that the govt and-or Bombardier didnt want to be liable in the event of a civilian accident due to something like the single master cylinder or improper lights or some such thing...(no matter how remote the possibility)

As for armour, given recent provincial legislation in BC and Ontario agianst "armoured" cars (ganstas) I kinda doubt anything remotely armoured will ever be released anymore
...a sad state of affairs

actually, as I recall, the Iltis was not supposed to be released either, or at least not platable for the road... but somehow a few slipped through the cracks and then the rest were sort of allowed through..although it is a bit of a grey area.

[Wpns 421]

Yes the guy in Montreal bought a cab & frame from a dealer in the US and did a major frame modification to the truck. I recently spoke to the SQ(Police) and was informed that the MLVW can be plated as an artisanal truck if
- a major modification was done to the engine and transmission i.e. change them for another pair diesel & auto to multifeul & manual, frame work done i.e. bob the truck, or in my case remove an axle. You need a minimum of 3 major changes then he will give you a paper to take to the DMV(SAAQ).
I am in the process of buying a cab and chassis with a good title from the US and we will change the frame and then remove an axle, this will qualify as an artisanal truck. It will also have a new VIN number.
Believe me I have spent a lot of time and effort in trying to get my trucks plated. As to the single cylinder brake system we have found a kit that mounts in the cab and is an auxillary reservoir that easily connects to the existing system. Takes about 2 hours to do.
I will soon be moving into Ontario and will come under a new DMV system. MTF Gilles

[Alex Blair (RIP)]

Originally Posted by Wpns 421

Yes the guy in Montreal bought a cab & frame from a dealer in the US and did a major frame modification to the truck. I recently spoke to the SQ(Police) and was informed that the MLVW can be plated as an artisanal truck if
- a major modification was done to the engine and transmission i.e. change them for another pair diesel & auto to multifeul & manual, frame work done i.e. bob the truck, or in my case remove an axle. You need a minimum of 3 major changes then he will give you a paper to take to the DMV(SAAQ).
I am in the process of buying a cab and chassis with a good title from the US and we will change the frame and then remove an axle, this will qualify as an artisanal truck. It will also have a new VIN number.
Believe me I have spent a lot of time and effort in trying to get my trucks plated. As to the single cylinder brake system we have found a kit that mounts in the cab and is an auxillary reservoir that easily connects to the existing system. Takes about 2 hours to do.
I will soon be moving into Ontario and will come under a new DMV system. MTF Gilles

Gilles
I will soon be moving into Ontario
Where..Bobby's back 50 Acres..??

[Wpns 421]

Don't worry Alex, it will not be on Bob's back 50. I will let you guys know when the deal is done. But I can say it has a big barn. It has and will have a lot of winter storage space for MVs MTF Gilles

[Alex Blair (RIP)]

Originally Posted by Wpns 421

Don't worry Alex, it will not be on Bob's back 50. I will let you guys know when the deal is done. But I can say it has a big barn. It has and will have a lot of winter storage space for MVs MTF Gilles

Good deal Gilles..
Can't wait for the barn warming party..!!