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Old 15-01-12, 17:58
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Default Glass gasket

Hi Scott

The gasket on the glass itself is a standard flat tape like rubber which good sized Auto-Truck glass places should have. If you can not find that I've used the thick rubber tape used to seal underground electrical cable splices.

As to the gasket that goes in the channel of the frame to seal around the out side of the window frame to the body this is also a standard glass shop material sold by the foot or if you are doing a couple of trucks buy a spool box of it think it comes in 50' boxes.

Hope this helps.

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Old 15-01-12, 20:32
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I got all the rubber I needed at rare spairs.
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Old 19-02-12, 14:21
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For carburetors, you will find some people who love any given carb and aome who hate it.
For the Rochester "B", the most common complaint is that at least some of them are vulnerable to the castings warping leading to leakage. I believe there may be some with a more sloped top to the upper casting that are more stable but am not sure of this. The "B" are also not designed for high angle off road work (more likely for economical production), there must be an open topped well within the casting because fuel can spill at high angles.

You will find a variety of opinions expressed at stovebolt.com: http://www.stovebolt.com/ubbthreads/...s.php/ubb/cfrm
I find the posts on carburetion by "Carbking" to be particularly valuable. He is opinionated (who in the hobby isn't?) but I believe his opinions are based on wider experience of carburetors than most as he does carburetor rebuild/restoration http://www.thecarburetorshop.com/ and has a page on the W-1 http://www.thecarburetorshop.com/CarterChevroletW1.htm
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Old 20-02-12, 03:25
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I would trust "CarbKing" as he has been in the business for a long time.

The W-1 is not a bad carburator and it is the original for the 216....... it might not have sufficient CFM for a high reving 235 or 261 but would still run the engine quite well.

I ran a totally rebuilt Rochester "B" and it ran well........ I changed because of th tendency to flow raw gasoline off the top of the carburator at anything over 25 to 30 degrees of hill climb........ apparently the W -1 did not have that nasty habit...... the Rochester B was after all intended for civilian application. For ther ecord my Roch. B did not leak form the top casket cover but leaked from some undetected factory vent hole..... which is part of its design.

I am now running a Carter YF which is flawless ( suggested by Carb King) and do intend to try on a rebuilt Zenith 28 228 formerly used on the GMC 270 cu. in C60x engine.


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Old 17-03-12, 00:33
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Dont forget to polarise your field coil magnets before you turn on the key.
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Old 17-03-12, 00:35
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Default CMP Parts Book Shows Both Types

Hi Scott

Just took a quick look at both the HUP and 3 Ton Chevy CMP parts books and they both show three different types of generator one with a tail bushing, a front ball bearing and no air filter. The next has a tail bushing, a front ball bearing and air filter. The last showing tail ball bearing, a front ball bearing and air filter.

If you want I can post the parts diagram and the detail pages if you don't have them.

I just rebuilt the generator for my HUP which has ball bearings at both ends but strangely it doesn't have the air cleaner. Bearings were good so I cleaned and re-lubricated them and reinstalled. Only other work was new brushes and brush springs. It is now back on the engine running on the test stand.

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Old 17-03-12, 07:18
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Yes please Phil, if you could post those diagrams.

I do have parts and maintenance manuals which only have the versions with the bushing at the rear of the generator and without the air filter.

How do I go about polarising the magnets ? - as there is no mention of magnets in the parts description, unless you mean the generator pole shoe that the coil is fitted around?
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The field coils are wound around a hunk of cast iron . The iron needs an amount of residual magnetism in order for the generator to " start up" , once it gets going . This magnetism is polarised in either of two ways . If you have a NEG ground system, the coils need to be polarised for a NEG ground .

You normally just touch a wire from the battery HOT SIDE to the field coil terminal , this is enough to polarise the coils

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Old 17-03-12, 14:26
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Default Generator Part Pages

Hi Scott

Below is the parts break out view, and the link to the parts pages that go with it. Hope this helps.

My experience is that the generators have to energized as Mike describes, the manual also describes a number of test for the generator including a motor test. I have found that the energizing step should be the last and if the generator sits around not connected for a long time may have to be repeated. I've ended up doing it after the generator is installed on the engine and fails to charge when the is running.



http://canadianmilitarypattern.com/M...0Up%20Link.htm This page is where I've started storing photos I want to up load at larger size or higher resolution to present on MLU. If the size is a problem for your browser or web connection please let me know.

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