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Old 04-06-12, 09:06
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Actually Euan's came from a different source, via Bruce Wiltshire who restored it. It was not one of the Hughes bodies.

There is another (not from Hughes) which has just arrived at the museum in Adelaide and there are several others such as the remains of one at Copley, another which was used in the making of the Back of Beyond, and even one which wound up at Wayne M's in the 70s.

Then there's the cut up one recovered from Ballarat about 5 years ago which is destined for Dubbo.

And there is yet another in South Australia which has had the lower subframe removed.

So while we don't know the exact number of Chev bodies produced it would seem there were at least 45 CGT9s built late in the war. Only 2 were known to have been completed.

The AWM have a restored No9 FGT in their collection in the annexe as well as a F15A and F60L cab 12 GS.

As far as reproducing the No9 there are engineering drawings for most if not all the parts in existence.
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Old 04-06-12, 10:31
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Then there's the cut up one recovered from Ballarat about 5 years ago which is destined for Dubbo.
And there is yet another in South Australia which has had the lower subframe removed.
So while we don't know the exact number of Chev bodies produced it would seem there were at least 45 CGT9s built late in the war. Only 2 were known to have been completed.
Is that another in South Australia ?
It is interesting about saying 45 built as the NOS CGT No9 (Ex SA Kim Lochell found) body I have is body 59. Also lower subframe removed. I heard possibly 62 were built cant remember who told me that though.
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Old 04-06-12, 10:46
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Thanks for mentioning the later numbers Andrew... if we manage to find some documentary evidence all we have to go on is found numbers.

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Is that another in South Australia ?
It is interesting about saying 45 built as the NOS CGT No9 (Ex SA Kim Lochell found) body I have is body 59. Also lower subframe removed. I heard possibly 62 were built cant remember who told me that though.
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Thanks Tony for your great response. I'll keep my eyes open.


I do know of a dual cab blitz that is a chev. It has post war doors etc, I have no idea if it's originally a cgt though. It's probably just a home made job.
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Old 04-06-12, 13:05
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Thanks Tony for your great response. I'll keep my eyes open.


I do know of a dual cab blitz that is a chev. It has post war doors etc, I have no idea if it's originally a cgt though. It's probably just a home made job.
Dosent look like one of the post war PMG ones does it Ryan?
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Dosent look like one of the post war PMG ones does it Ryan?

Wow, yes, that first photo, identical. No rear tray though.
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Old 05-06-12, 15:14
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Dosent look like one of the post war PMG ones does it Ryan?
Very interesting Andrew, I've never seen one like this before. Roof treatment is quite different from PMG, windows different too. Still very professional though - maybe a different coach builder, as a one off custom job for somebody.
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Very interesting Andrew, I've never seen one like this before. Roof treatment is quite different from PMG, windows different too. Still very professional though - maybe a different coach builder, as a one off custom job for somebody.
Very possibly
I prefer its flatter roofline at least(maybe not as good for headroom though). It looks more like a CGT No8 roofline and profile
In the second picture it looks as though Australians are also the inventors of the extra cab as well .It does not have a door at the back. On drivers side at least .This one shown on Keith's OLDCMP site, originally spotted in WA by Rod Diery
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I do know of a dual cab blitz that is a chev. It has post war doors etc, I have no idea if it's originally a cgt though. It's probably just a home made job.
Sounds like a CGT candidate anyway, perhaps a late production with the canvas doors replaced. Alternatively perhaps a PMG dual cab, as seen here:

http://www.oldcmp.net/PMG_1.html

Or perhaps as you say, a homemade job. Although I'm inclined to doubt it - I've seen some weird and wonderful homemade blitz cabs (even two storey ones!) but I don't recall ever seeing a homemade dual cab.

If you can get some pics we can soon identify it.
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Tony, Andrew, here it is.
Tony, I followed your oldcmp link and sure enough the actual vehicle is there, although in a different spot when I stumbled across it.
Keith, I hope you don't mind me grabbing these shots from your site and pasting them here to clear things up.
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Tony, Andrew, here it is.
Tony, I followed your oldcmp link and sure enough the actual vehicle is there, although in a different spot when I stumbled across it.
Keith, I hope you don't mind me grabbing these shots from your site and pasting them here to clear things up.
Yes, the Post Master General's Department converted a number of CMPs post-war into line vehicles, mostly Chevrolets, and often C15s with an extended chassis.
They were coach built cabs and many suffered self destruction as did a lot of timber framed vehicles of the era.

Still it would be nice to see one of these restored as a PMG vehicle for posterity.
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Old 04-06-12, 12:59
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That's interesting about the NOS Chev bodies - for some reason I'd assumed all the survivors were from Hughes.

So I guess there could be more out there somewhere - perhaps sitting in a farmer's shed in pristine condition!

What happened with the CGT chassis from Wodonga, ie. the Peter's crane conversion? It would be great if that could be restored with a NOS body, as one of the only known CGT9's to have been delivered.
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That's interesting about the NOS Chev bodies - for some reason I'd assumed all the survivors were from Hughes.

So I guess there could be more out there somewhere - perhaps sitting in a farmer's shed in pristine condition!

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Going off numbers potentially at least 59
Pristine GT wouldnt that be the ultimate find
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