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[Jacques Reed]

Hi Tony,
Think I answered my own question! I remember getting the base plate straightened many years ago by the bumper straightening service where I took my bumper. I seem to remember now he mentioned grinding off some rivet heads. I had a look at my base and I can just see the outline of the holes. He did such a good neat job I didn"t see them before I primered and painted it. So I would say they were riveted directly to the base plate. The photos I obtained showed so much scale I assumed it was a sheet metal plate on the bottom. Have attached photo of my "interim" battery holder. You may find it interesting the Baldwin fuel filter element in it. The first truck had the remains of an AC GF-132 filter inside the filter housing. When I cross referenced, I found Baldwin makes one for it and bought it locally in Melbourne. I think it is a lot better filter than the original brass leaf type. And, just like the engine, I am willing to deviate from 100% original if it doesn't affect appearance but improves reliability.
Brgds, Jacques

[Tony Smith]

Originally Posted by Jacques Reed

I Have attached a photo .... You may find it interesting the Baldwin fuel filter element in it. The truck had the remains of an AC GF-132 filter inside the filter housing. When I cross referenced, I found Baldwin makes one for it and bought it locally in Melbourne. I think it is a lot better filter than the original brass leaf type. And, just like the engine, I am willing to deviate from 100% original if it doesn't affect appearance but improves reliability.
Brgds, Jacques

Good thinking, Jacques. I can't clearly see the Baldwin number in the pic. Can you provide it please?

We have a thread on Modern CMP part numbers, to which we can add the AC GF-132 and the Baldwin filter as modern replacements. For those who didn't know, the same filters will be useful for MB/GPW owners, as well as other WW2 US vehicles too.

[Jacques Reed]

Hi Tony,
The Baldwin filter Number is PF860.
Available from Baldwin Filters (Aust).
95 Fulton Drive
Derrimut, Vic 3030

While we are on filters, I will do start a thread on some of the info I have on bypass oil filters and cartridges as used on Canadian Ford WW2 V8's. They seem to be different to those on Ford engines from the US (smaller diameter). May help those having a hard time finding appropriate ones. Will stick it in the Restoration forum as I got moved to "B Echelon" on my first posting but it is really a restoration topic.
Brgds,
Jacques

[Grant Bowker]

Interesting -
At http://www.equipmax.net/baldwin/cgi_...empartid=GF133 they say "GF133 Cross to Baldwin PF860" so the Baldwin element may repalce two slightly different AC elements.
They also give dimensions for the PF860 as: Fuel Element Fits: GMC, White Trucks Replaces: GMC 854435; White 871646 O.D.: 2 7/8 (73.0) I.D.: 17/32 (13.5) Length: 2 1/8 (54.0) A. Gskt.: [2] Attached F. Gskt.: G338 UPC: 791440009431

A quick search for price in North America came up with $9.02 each (less in cases of 12) at http://www.baldwinfiltersrus.com/bal..._lookup/PF860/. I have no experience of the seller.


On follow-up, I checked the Baldwin catalog for off highway applications and found that the PF860 is almost exclusive to GMC/Chev applications on a variety of engines between 1957-1965. 283 V8, 292 6 cyl, 302 6, 351 V6, 503 6, 427 6, 360 6, 348 v8. There is also a lonely reference to a White/GMC application, remembering there was a period with GM owning White. The only cross reference found to another filter was to the AC GF133, used in an AC GF30A housing.
For the trivia hunters out there - the only non-GM related application found was for a Chris Craft boat (and that might have been GM powered).

[Jacques Reed]

Hi Grant,
Should have updated my notes. The original filter was an AC GF 133 not a 132. As per the attached photo the rust was right at the base of the second "3" giving the impresion it was a "2". Close inspection by "forensics" shows it is a "3". Seem to now remember this discussion at Baldwin's a few years back.
Sorry for any confusion.
The Baldwin filter fits perfectly, is available, filters better, and conforms closely to the AC filter allowing for slight manufacturer's differences. Thanks for the heads up. Know the frustration of chasing wrong info.
Brgds,
Jacques

[Private_collector]

Yes Jacques, you are correct about the battery frame rivited to the base. My base has lasted far better than the box too. It also need a slight 'tweak' to straighten, but has no major pitting that might be a hole. Having said that, it is often only after sandblasting that these things appear. With this piece I am quietly confident though.

I will copy your photo showing the fuel filter, if thats OK? Every bit helps.

Will need to get back to you regarding dimensions, but first thougts are that they are quite correct. I will confirm this later this week.

I fully understand the decision to make slight 'alterations' or improvements in restoration. I like to think some of the changes I make are what Ford would have done if they were able to take their time and pay more attention to quality in construction

P.S: You Chev guys, they aren't built any better, I have been reliably informed.

[Private_collector]

And here's one we prepared earlier
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It's off Keith Webbs latest offering: http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...d=1#post167811