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Old 19-07-12, 10:45
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Default Tony & Jacques

Too easy!

For what it's worth, the metal thickness of mine is:
Imperial 0.0595in or Metric 1.5mm
These measurements are on a section where there was minimal surface rust to increase thickness too much.

The angle Jacques was enquiring about is not 45 degree on my frame. It is just a little over 45.

Tony, I had already checked this afternoon, before I saw your email. Also your photo is exactly like mine, where as the photo Jacques posted on 14th, shows one with a shallow lip on the front. Which is correct???

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Old 19-07-12, 14:26
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your photo is exactly like mine, where as the photo Jacques posted on 14th, shows one with a shallow lip on the front. Which is correct???

Jacques' pic is correct - you and I have lost the front lip which is a separate piece. Looking closely at Keith's pic from the assembly instructions it appears to have a folded top edge, and the ends are folded around around the outside of the box, presumably spot welded to it.

Mine has been repaired in this area, with a new front lip being folded INSIDE the box, and roughly welded along the front edge. However you can see that the side has a cut away at the bottom to accommodate the thickness of the front lip, to make a neat flush join with the ends folded OUTSIDE. It's probably cleared on Jacques' pic which I've included here again.





The front edges of the box sides are recessed at the bottom to accommodate the thickness of the front lip section, making it flush with the whole front edge.
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Old 19-07-12, 14:49
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it appears to have a folded top edge
Actually it may not, it could be just an artifact in the photo. All the straight lines appear to have been retouched.
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Old 19-07-12, 14:56
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Here's a slightly higher res image. I'd say it's an artifact, not a rolled top edge. All the straight lines have this appearance from retouching.
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Old 20-07-12, 00:14
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The edge is not rolled right over, but has a lip to avoid a sharp edge. It can be seen in this pic of the part on a cab 12.

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Old 20-07-12, 11:28
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What vehicle is that photo showing Keith?

Much better brackets than the ones on Ford CMP.
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Old 20-07-12, 11:28
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The edge is not rolled right over, but has a lip to avoid a sharp edge.
Yes, mine has a similar lip on all the exposed edges, although not quite as pronounced as the cab 12 pic.

I wonder why mine has two sets of holes for the clamp bolt...? (the crossed holes are from a rust repair)

BTW does anyone have a pattern for the cover box as seen in the assembly pic? Also it appears to have T-handled clamp nuts...?

And a question for Keith - does the FGT use the same battery box assy in the cab?
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Old 20-07-12, 11:41
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Another essential part is the battery hold down. This one is NOS off ebay a while back. Jacques, you may want to use this for a pattern if you don't have one already.
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Old 20-07-12, 13:01
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No the one in the cab is a full box with a hinged lid. It's mounted on a couple of risers.
The other battery box was I think on a Ford cab 11/12.

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Yes, mine has a similar lip on all the exposed edges, although not quite as pronounced as the cab 12 pic.

I wonder why mine has two sets of holes for the clamp bolt...? (the crossed holes are from a rust repair)

BTW does anyone have a pattern for the cover box as seen in the assembly pic? Also it appears to have T-handled clamp nuts...?

And a question for Keith - does the FGT use the same battery box assy in the cab?
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Old 21-07-12, 06:30
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Yes, mine has a similar lip on all the exposed edges, although not quite as pronounced as the cab 12 pic.

I wonder why mine has two sets of holes for the clamp bolt...? (the crossed holes are from a rust repair)

BTW does anyone have a pattern for the cover box as seen in the assembly pic? Also it appears to have T-handled clamp nuts...?

And a question for Keith - does the FGT use the same battery box assy in the cab?
Hi Tony, Don't know why it has the extra set of holes. maybe a production (missteak), mistake, Can confirm though the one I have photos of show those holes also so it must be common. Also have a hold down for it, a Vintique repro which is the standard design for most sidevalve Fords and readily available from the various Flathead Ford parts suppliers.
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Old 09-08-12, 10:35
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Default Fuel filter information.

Thank you all for the infiormation on fuel filters . I have checked it in my Fleetgaurd catologue and it all chechs out ok. I will buy some and be able to use these filters on my Jeep
Very usefull info.
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Old 09-08-12, 13:02
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Default Fuel filter compatability

I have now tried a Wix 33042 in the CMP housing. It fits nicely with friction on the central spigot to make a seal but still slides under the pressure of the spring.

Since the one filter fits, they are all listed as being suitable for NSN 2910-00-945-2318 at http://www.parttarget.com/2910-00-94...2318_GF12.html and some of the manufacturers' listings also confirm the cross reference I think all of the following should be interchangable: ArvinMeritor GF12, Ford/Motorcraft FG-11, GM 854425, Delco GF133, NAPA 3042 (sometimes FIL 3042), Fram CG5. Add from manufacturers' cross reference: Baldwin PF860, Luberfiner L8305F and Fleetguard FF132, White 871646, Hastings PF860/G338, Carquest 86042, WGB S224CP, Wartsila France F3229, Big A 95042 and possibly/probably others. The NSN listing seems to be mainly for aviation use, showing these filters used in B52, F4 Harrier and C17 among others.

I have also found that the spring that PeterDebella sells as "WO-A-1262 Spring, fuel filter strainer" fits the filter from my CMP housing.

When installing the Wix element, I found that I had to reduce the surface roughness of the central tube so that the filter would slide freely under spring pressure to make good gasket contact at the top of the element. I suspec that the roughness was the result of time, not a basic misfit as the original strainer element doesn't seem to fit differently before and after. Also worth noting, in addition to the gasket(s) mounted on the filter element the Wix came with the gasket between the housing halves (but not the one for the hollow bolt securing the 2 parts of the housing).
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Old 09-08-12, 13:06
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Default filter installation photos

The install went nicely, but I have no idea about the relative efectiveness of the filter compared to the original strainer.
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Old 09-08-12, 13:09
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While doing the study of filter cross references I had made myself a table, attached in case it helps someone.
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