M113 Lynx photos needed for book project

[Ed Storey]

No not at all, but if you have time and if there is one in your area can you crack open a Lynx and take a photo of the data plate?

[rob love]

I'm at the shop right now, and we have one out back, but it's -25 right now so no promises. I take it the 113-1/2 is the query?

[Ed Storey]

Only -25C, I have heard that is T shirt weather out west... Yes, I am curious as to what is on a Lynx data plate.

[rob love]

Well that was cold. Any colder and I would have had to put on a hat or gloves.

Here are some shots Ed. No M113-1/2 anywhere. They do include CR-2 in the serial number so perhaps that is more the model number? Command Recce 2nd model? That is assuming the Dutch models were first. I note when I look up the NSN for a lynx it gives the reference number to model CR2C1.

[Ed Storey]

Rob, thank you for taking the time to photograph the data plates. Yes, the Canadian Lynx are all CR-2-## with the last number or numbers indicating the individual vehicle in the production sequence. Like you, I believe the CR-1s were the Dutch vehicles although I have not confirmed this.

So much for M113 1/2.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

AFAIK, the manufacturer's (FMC) designation was M113 C&R (Command & Reconnaissance).

The Royal Netherlands Army designated it as M113 C&V. "C&V" stands for Commando & Verkenning, which is Dutch for Command & Reconnaissance. The first 250 manufactured went to the Netherlands in 1966, the rest went to Canada so you could be right about the CR1 and CR2.

First picture shows one in preservation at the National Military Museum, the second on shows the fate of most of them - range target! Although a number have been exported to Chile, I believe.

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[maple_leaf_eh]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

Although a number have been exported to Chile, I believe.

A batch were exported to Bahrain in the Persian Gulf. I spotted a group in a parade in someone's photo gallery. Today searching again, I can't find any clear statement. (I wonder if they were retired in good order, and transferred to 'other parties' for the civil war in Yemen?) Edit - Found it!

https://milinme.wordpress.com/2013/0...e-m113-family/

[Richard Farrant]

I was holding back on posting this but after Terry's post, take a look at the link here to a book. The publisher appears to be an official organisation, and book subject on vehicle trials lists the M113 1/2.
http://www.amazon.com/MUDLARK-Tests-.../dp/B0007J20AC

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by maple_leaf_eh

A batch were exported to Bahrain in the Persian Gulf. I spotted a group in a parade in someone's photo gallery. Today searching again, I can't find any clear statement. (I wonder if they were retired in good order, and transferred to 'other parties' for the civil war in Yemen?) Edit - Found it!

https://milinme.wordpress.com/2013/0...e-m113-family/

I recall you posting that link - those are certainly ex-RNLA M113 C&R's and YPR-785's! I think they were sold to Egypt as well.

I hear you thinking: YPR-785? Well, that's the Dutch designation for the AIFV (Armored Infantry Fighting Vehicle) based on the M113 - another variant for which no US military designation exists as they were not used by the US.

[maple_leaf_eh]

Originally Posted by rob love

Well that was cold. Any colder and I would have had to put on a hat or gloves. ...

We can only assume there was nothing good on TV to keep you indoors.

[rob love]

Originally Posted by maple_leaf_eh

We can only assume there was nothing good on TV to keep you indoors.

The whole extended family is over for a late Christmas dinner and activities. Going to the shop was a good escape. I'm not one for hustle and bustle.

[SilvioI]

We had a plate on it from FMC that said M113 1/2. That plate was removed during the rebuild and I have not seen it since.

I said M113 1/2 Lynx for a few reasons. Some people know under different names. The Ontario Regiment tank museum has it listed on there website as
" M113 Command and Reconnaissance Vehicle - Lynx", it is listed in some books as M113 1/2 (FMC Designation), I have even seen it listed as M113 C&R.

I posted it as M113 Lynx because I am trying to acquire photos and info needed and I put down what I thought was a common name of the vehicle.