Sherman ARV at Camp Borden??

[Russ Gregg]

I now live about 10 minutes from Borden and passed through today on my way to Barrie. I hadn't been to the museum in a few years and always thought that it was a shame they didn't have some sort of guide book to all the vehicles and aircraft on display around the base. They do now have a large map outside the museum with coordinates and model of all items on static display, probably in preparation for the 100th anniversary celebrations, but the gentleman inside told me there were no paper copies available. Next time I go I will take a decent camera and get a good picture of it, although it wouldn't have helped with Bob's request. If anyone wants some investigation or pictures of something there PM me.

[Ed Storey]

Does this mean the vehicle is going to be painted the appropriate Bundeswehr green with markings?

[maple_leaf_eh]

Originally Posted by Ed Storey

Does this mean the vehicle is going to be painted the appropriate Bundeswehr green with markings?

Hmmm? Do you have a sense when these ARVs were surplussed? The typical platform for a Madill Spar Yarder logging tower is an M32. I was wondering where these would have come from in large enough numbers to be a predictable source of supply.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by maple_leaf_eh

The typical platform for a Madill Spar Yarder logging tower is an M32. I was wondering where these would have come from in large enough numbers to be a predictable source of supply.

Why M32? Aren't they based on any-type of lower Sherman tank?

H.

[maple_leaf_eh]

I have few exact construction details. The literature for a Madill 171 lists the base vehicle as an M4A3, another clearly indicates M32 for a Madill 071. Another user, Finning which made pneumatic rock drills uses the base vehicle in the model designator, ie. Finning M32F Hammer Drill.

[Peter Duggan]

Robin,

I took some pieces to a sandblaster, just outside of Deseronto, and came across your ARV. Looks as if it should be off to Kingston shortly.

Peter


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[rob love]

Much better colour.

Is it me or is the call-sign stenciling a little too modern and out of place?

[Clint Tauber]

Originally Posted by maple_leaf_eh

I have few exact construction details. The literature for a Madill 171 lists the base vehicle as an M4A3, another clearly indicates M32 for a Madill 071. Another user, Finning which made pneumatic rock drills uses the base vehicle in the model designator, ie. Finning M32F Hammer Drill.

Primary reason for the M-32 carrier designation was to avoid confusion with the first tank drills, which used M-4 high speed tractors. The larger Madill and Tyee yarders used a carrier designated the "M4A3", which was a Dr. Frankenstein thing closer to an M40 SP gun. Widened and lengthened hull, and carrying 60 tons of machine. Several of the so-called "M-32" drills were likely built from Grizzlies and Sextons, had the CDP track. Horrible stuff, most got replaced within a year or two with US pattern track. The last tank drills were "M-40F's" and are not an M-40 at all, they are a typical HVSS Sherman with standard length hull.

Lots of the earliest steel spar yarders were mounted on M-6 HS tractors, converted to varying degrees. Some still retained the original cab. The first tank drill was simply an M4 HS tractor with a compressor on the back and a drill attached to the front. Still had the Waukesha gas engine, even. Later versions were highly modified, with air control for steering, diesel power, etc. Also 10 speed transmissions added.

[maple_leaf_eh]

Thank you for the specifics. Learn something new every day.