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Looking at the front on shot it has a 'Divers Helmet' distributor as fitted to the 1941 vehicles. You mentioned the engine number is different to the one on the data plate, what is the number of the engine that was in it?
I have some NOS transfer case gears, might have the one you need, but will have to dig them out of storage.
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What did you do with the boom crane? It looks to be the original crane as fitted to the F60L. Both the RAAF and the Army (mainly engineer units) used that crane type.
The original engine number, as Keith said, was also used as the chassis number of Aust assembled/built Fords, so that would be helpful in finding out its original identity/military registration number. Nice project. Best of luck. The thread Tony pointed you to re valves just about provides everything you need to know or the options you have before you. As for pistons and crank shaft bearings, I used a later model crank shaft with two oil holes per journal, and fixed shell bearings rather than the original full-float type. Four ring pistons and 8BA con rods with fixed shell bearings. Also a crab-type distributor rather than the helmet type you already have. Balanced, it went like a train. Mike |
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Hey Mike, I still have the original crane and winch driven by the PTO. Not sure what I will do with it yet? I was thinking of leaving it off, as it weighs a lot. |
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You have a 'Truck, 3 ton, Derrick', Army Registration Number 161942.
It was written off by Board of Survey from 2 Base Ordnance Depot on 5 January 1961, and would have been sold at auction shortly afterwards. The engine number was the key. Interestingly, the previous serial number (146477) was an RAAF GS vehicle, while several around that, for example, serial 146474, were the RAAF version of the Derrick, called a 'Crane GP', so it would seem your truck and several RAAF 'Crane GP' were all assembled by Ford at about the same time, and farmed out to both the RAAF and Army. Regards Mike ![]() Last edited by Mike Cecil; 03-08-17 at 18:48. |
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I found this photograph at the Australian War Memorial website. It shows a crane like yours being operated in Queensland. The caption reads: Wongabel, Queensland. 13th of March 1945. A 3 ton derrick mounted on a truck unloads a car engine at 2/3 Infantry Troops Field Park. Corporal G.R. Moyle (1), handles the engine at the foreground. Photograph accessed August, 4 2017 from https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C66242?search A couple of differences between your truck and the one in the photograph taken back in 1945: your truck has dual rear wheels and the truck taken in 1945 has single rear wheels. The 1945 truck has a tool box mounted across the rear of the tray. Unless the toolbox was installed as an outrigger arrangement it does not look like it would fit on your truck? Kind Regards Lionel
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My truck when found, was converted into a vehicle recovery truck, and worked it's civilian life as a tow truck in Walcha, NSW, Australia. It had extensive steel plate added to the rear for towing cars by the front axel, it has the extensions added to widen front wheelbase. I assumed that the duel wheels and extensions to the front would have been added when the tow truck conversion took place? Or did they have these wheels in military service? Really appreciate the photo! |
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Just a quick update on my engine!
I've measured the main crankshaft bearings(2.4993") and big end journal bearings(2.138"). According to "Ford Flathead v-8 Builders Handbook 1932-1953" this puts the engine around the 1946-48 I'd say as the Bell housing is still the old style..... Any thoughts from the Flathead guru's? |
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Hi David,
Sure sounds like a '46-'48 engine based on the journal sizes but having said that in the course of 75 years the engine could have had a crank replaced. My '46 engine pictured had 8BA crank and rods in it along with the 8BA valves and guides. The divers helmet distributor still seems an anomaly on a later block. Again, who knows what gets swapped about after 75 years. Ditto the alloy manifold. That number you quoted "363:1 K" is that in raised lettering in either of the positions that "C69A" is shown on my engine block? Anecdotally, I have heard there were some odd block codes for things such as stationary engines but have never seen any documentation on such. Here's hoping you get a confirmation of what year the engine is. Cheers,
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The problem with most American sources (Books or Websites) is that they refuse to acknowledge that the Ford V8 continued to be produced throughout the war years. Production did stop in the US in favour of the 6cyl, but the V8 continued to be produced (and evolve) in Canada. Most of the "New" features that the Americans received in '46 models were the results of Canadian development and production. Don't believe the Yank "Fake News"! Your crank dimensions are entirely consistant with the with the 1939-45 239ci 99A that is the correct engine for the Ford Blitz. Any progress on finding a stamped engine number, not a casting number? |
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4G6532F is the number given on the data plate....see pic. The number on the casting on the bell housing is D363:1 K. Engine does have the divers helmet fitted. Mmmmmm need to find more numbers on the engine. I'm beginning to think it was a quick fix by putting another motor in it? |
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After zooming in on your photo of the engine I would say it probably was a engine swap with an earlier passenger car engine based on the single row water pump pulleys and what appears to be an alloy intake manifold. Neither would have been used on a 1944 built truck engine. That number has me intrigued though. Is it raised lettering and cast into the block or stamped into the block? If raised lettering it does not conform to any block ID I could find. Still, there are a few strange ones out there which may not have been documented. If stamped into the block then some administration may have done it for their own ID purposes. Cheers,
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