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Theoretically, if I can find the ID on the motor and it matches the ID number on the tag, then the serial number should be correct? Where would the ID be located on the motor? (Now that I can look for it with a crawler on a concrete floor)
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Richard Hatkoski 1940 CMP C11 C-8 (Restoring) 1940 CMP C11 F-15A (Parts) 1941 CMP C12 C-15A (Parts) 1942 CMP C13 F-60S Dumper (Restoring) 2 x 1941 CMP C12 F-GT (Storage) 194? CMP C13 C-60X (For Sale) |
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Hi Rich,
The engine number is actually on the transmission bell housing stamped just above the inspection cover as in example in photo. I believe the thinking at the time was an engine would likely be replaced but the transmission would more likely stay in a vehicle. This was to keep track of the vehicles identity more so than the motor. Cheers,
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F15-A 1942 Battery Staff Jacques Reed Last edited by Jacques Reed; 15-12-21 at 22:22. |
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Jacques, thanks for reply, I will check the bell housing on Thursday morning when I get to the shop and I will post the result. Cheers
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Richard Hatkoski 1940 CMP C11 C-8 (Restoring) 1940 CMP C11 F-15A (Parts) 1941 CMP C12 C-15A (Parts) 1942 CMP C13 F-60S Dumper (Restoring) 2 x 1941 CMP C12 F-GT (Storage) 194? CMP C13 C-60X (For Sale) |
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Hi Rich,
Always good to see a CMP being brought back to life. Two remarks: 1) CMPs were never fabricated for civilian purposes. But they were sold as surplus after the war and used in large numbers by civilian operators both in Canada as well as in many countries in Europe. 2) The data plate dated Jan.1941 most likely came from an earlier F60S as the Cab 13 wasn’t in production then, IIRC. If I lived near you I would come over and swap that 2B1 body for a civilian one. Keep us posted on your progress.
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Thanks Hanno, this truck has a couple of peculiarities that I don't have answers to.......yet. (the ID plate and the English made lift) Yes, if we lived closer together I could probably swing you a deal on two FGTs as well as drive over the 2B1 body..........I will keep everyone posted. I'm trying to get this project done in the January - February time frame as this is a quiet time of the year for my business. I'm not sure if I can catch up to Mr. Bergeron but I will try.
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Richard Hatkoski 1940 CMP C11 C-8 (Restoring) 1940 CMP C11 F-15A (Parts) 1941 CMP C12 C-15A (Parts) 1942 CMP C13 F-60S Dumper (Restoring) 2 x 1941 CMP C12 F-GT (Storage) 194? CMP C13 C-60X (For Sale) |
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Good morning, I cleaned off the transmission bell housing and at top centre, the numbers 30 7408 F are visible. So, the Ford V8 engine that is in the F-60S matches the name tag on the dog house. Does this mean that whoever converted this Cab 11 or Cab 12 original F-60S was careful enough, when upgrading to the Cab 13 format, that they matched the engine to the tags that were installed on the dog house? Is this possible that the original Cab 11 or 12 dog house stayed with the chassis and motor and a new Cab 13 fit over it? I don't have another Ford here with a dog house here to compare to. Thoughts?
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Richard Hatkoski 1940 CMP C11 C-8 (Restoring) 1940 CMP C11 F-15A (Parts) 1941 CMP C12 C-15A (Parts) 1942 CMP C13 F-60S Dumper (Restoring) 2 x 1941 CMP C12 F-GT (Storage) 194? CMP C13 C-60X (For Sale) |
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Normally behind first number is a letter G you can read on blocks engines...
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Mariano Paz Buenos Aires, ARGENTINA 1944 Ariel W/NG 1945 FGT FAT |
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You are correct Mariano, It is a G and not a zero. (my typo) So as far as I can tell, it is a match.
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Richard Hatkoski 1940 CMP C11 C-8 (Restoring) 1940 CMP C11 F-15A (Parts) 1941 CMP C12 C-15A (Parts) 1942 CMP C13 F-60S Dumper (Restoring) 2 x 1941 CMP C12 F-GT (Storage) 194? CMP C13 C-60X (For Sale) |
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My hunch regarding the correct production date of this truck is that it was produced on 5 Jan 1942. I suspect that the 1941 date was an error by the operator of the stamping machine who had been stamping 1941 for so long that it became habit.
In 1942, 5 Jan was the first Monday of the new year. In my life there have been a number of times that I wrote or typed the wrong year during the first few days back at school/work in January. |
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