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Normally behind first number is a letter G you can read on blocks engines...
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Mariano Paz Buenos Aires, ARGENTINA 1944 Ariel W/NG 1945 FGT FAT |
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You are correct Mariano, It is a G and not a zero. (my typo) So as far as I can tell, it is a match.
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Richard Hatkoski 1940 CMP C11 C-8 (Restoring) 1940 CMP C11 F-15A (Parts) 1941 CMP C12 C-15A (Parts) 1942 CMP C13 F-60S Dumper (Restoring) 2 x 1941 CMP C12 F-GT (Storage) 194? CMP C13 C-60X (For Sale) |
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My hunch regarding the correct production date of this truck is that it was produced on 5 Jan 1942. I suspect that the 1941 date was an error by the operator of the stamping machine who had been stamping 1941 for so long that it became habit.
In 1942, 5 Jan was the first Monday of the new year. In my life there have been a number of times that I wrote or typed the wrong year during the first few days back at school/work in January. |
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Film maker 42 FGT No8 (Aust) remains 42 FGT No9 (Aust) 42 F15 Keith Webb Macleod, Victoria Australia Also Canadian Military Pattern Vehicles group on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/canadianmilitarypattern |
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Thank you Colin, that makes very good sense. Hanno, does that work out better for Cab 13 production dates as well? If so, I guess this vehicle has an 80th Birthday coming up on January 5th! Cheers, Richard
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Richard Hatkoski 1940 CMP C11 C-8 (Restoring) 1940 CMP C11 F-15A (Parts) 1941 CMP C12 C-15A (Parts) 1942 CMP C13 F-60S Dumper (Restoring) 2 x 1941 CMP C12 F-GT (Storage) 194? CMP C13 C-60X (For Sale) |
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Hi Jacques,
You wrote "The engine number is actually on the transmission bell housing stamped just above the inspection cover as in example in photo. I believe the thinking at the time was an engine would likely be replaced but the transmission would more likely stay in a vehicle. This was to keep track of the vehicles identity more so than the motor" The 'G' in the Ford 'engine' number actually stands for the combination of a 3-3/16/95hp/239 cubic inch engine coupled with a 4-speed heavy-duty truck gearbox, so the number actually indicates more than just the engine, but the complete engine-gearbox assembly. So perhaps the thinking was it didn't matter where the ID number was stamped? As you know, in Aust, the 'engine' number was stamped on the front top flat of the engine block and not on the gearbox. (It was also stamped on the front right top face of the chassis in Aust assembled Fords). Mike |
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It should be easy enough to compare the serial number and compare it to Oct, Nov, Dec 41 known serials, and Feb/Mar 42 serial numbers to see if this serial falls in between those. A list like Peter Ford's infoex would have solved this quickly.
I also think on the first Monday of the year, the guy making the plates buggered it. After all, he had been changing the day on the embosser daily, the month monthly, and never had to really think about the year. |
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The photo I posted of the number stamped on the gearbox is on my F-15A. It corresponds with ARN 55166 and had an Australian cab and diamond plate floor so I assume it was Australian assembled. I've had three chassis and none were stamped. All had Australian cabs. Another collector believes not all chassis were stamped. Both my engines are 1946 blocks but have no Ford s/n's. They do have later state issued numbers that are located at the top left rear of the block. Will have to look at a wartime built engine to see the serial numbers you mention. Being 1946 engines perhaps they were replacement engines and therefore not stamped by Ford? Cheers,
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F15-A 1942 Battery Staff Jacques Reed |
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