LSVW trailer

[Robert Bergeron]

OK , ok , not our best idea for an Army truck . Here , i bought the matching trailer to my LSVW . It’s part of our military history and good people have served Canada well using this ill advised kit . Brought it home yesterday . Of course , bubba had improved the trailer lights and mixed the pigtail cords . Now everything is in proper military order , working and ready for a proper B/ O convoy. I made a demonstration to my son who is an engineering student and he was blown away . He had no clue of the use of the different lighting control levers in the driver compartment .As for the pigtail , i told him . no sweat , 21 goes in 21 , 23 goes in 23 , 24 in 24 and so on . Why do civilians can’t get it i will never know . I had a NOS pigtail and plug just waiting for a trailer . 37 is cancelled and forget it . Why is there we don’t use 37 anyway ? Why is 90 ( ground ) not used on all trucks ? Anyway i grounded 90 and it works . What is your opinion on this trailer as a piece of kit ? I know , i know , the truck is underpowered to pull it . I experienced it today . Even empty it’s too much for the truck . But construction wise ? Does it tow well the G Wagon the other truck i saw it hitched behind ?

[Robert Bergeron]

Front view . Q : How tight must the castle nut behind the tow hitch on the truck must be ? Hand tight , torqued ?

[rob love]

The numbers from 90 to 95 are all ground wires in one location or another. For instance, 91 is ground for the headlights. 90 is ground for the trailer. Wire 37, if I remember correctly , is a power wire. I used to energize that if you had lighting in the trailer. You just had to keep in mind that all the power you draw is from a 14 gauge wire. I think they also used to use it for the convoy light circuit....that was the K terminal iirc.

Re the pintle hitch, I always just went hand tight and then line it up with the next cotter pin hole. The pintle must rotate. It should also be greased once in a while.



The 750kg trailers are OK, the weak-point in my mind are the hydraulic brakes. Because the trailers sit for the majority of the year, the hydraulic systems do not get used enough.

[Wayne Hingley]

I found the listing of circuit numbers on this website to be helpful as a reference... https://olive-drab.com/od_mseries_circuits.php

[Ed Storey]

What a nice LSVW and DEW CDN1 Trailer combination. Preserving the current vehicles is as important as saving those from the war or post-war NATO eras as each vehicle represents a piece of Canada's automotive history.

[Robert Bergeron]

Thank you Rob , Whayne and Ed. A source for the rifle holders / racks in the cab of the LSVW ? Someone , somewhere along the disposal chain deemed appropriate to literraly tear them out of the floor without unbolting them .... Dangerous piece of kit .

[rob love]

Originally Posted by Ed Storey

What a nice LSVW and DEW CDN1 Trailer combination. Preserving the current vehicles is as important as saving those from the war or post-war NATO eras as each vehicle represents a piece of Canada's automotive history.

Agreed Ed, and even the lemons should be saved. The LSVW represents the product of political interference in the trials and tendering process. It will have a place in Canada's history right in line with the Ross rifle, the MacAdam shield shovel, and the Canadian Youth Volunteer program.

[Bob Phillips]

Words to live by.."Even the lemons should be saved!" he he!

[Robert Bergeron]

And the Royer zippered combat boots that come apart after 2 weeks Rob . Lemons come in many forms it seems. I thought the Iltis was your most hated Rob ? I had to tilt the cab of the LSVW to change the starter . 16 man hours !

[rob love]

Originally Posted by Robert Bergeron

And the Royer zippered combat boots that come apart after 2 weeks Rob . Lemons come in many forms it seems. I thought the Iltis was your most hated Rob ?

I would call it a tie.

[Robert Bergeron]

CFR of said trailer for historical purposes .

[Robert Bergeron]

Could be Zagreb , Port au Prince or anywhere else our proud and brave men and women served . Of course , when the power was on for street lights ....

[super dave]

That's nice to find, I used my M101 trailer to haul my Mule to some of the shows.

[Ed Storey]

That is a slick combination as well. Nothing illustrates CAF frugality better then a 1950s trailer hitched to a 1990s truck with a 1970s van body.

[Robert Bergeron]

Rebooting this thread . Found a box today . More to follow.

[Robert Bergeron]

Got a box off a LSVW yesterday . It took about an hour to get the nuts off . They were rusted . Had to cut a bolt or two . Lifted it off the truck with a solid fork lift and voilà ! From what i have been reading off of Rob Love ´s CUCV thread it’s corners are rounded and that’s correct . Those are the boxes that were retained and refurbished by CORCAN . Now comes the question : To install the box on my frame or not ? I have a cargo box with security cage now . Pros & Cons . Thanks .

[super dave]

I guess it all depends what you want to use it for. I use mine as a camper for doing long distance club events.

[super dave]

for some reason my pics went sideways

[Robert Bergeron]

Thanks Dave . Very nice layout . Looks like an office version i would say . Do you have an idea of how much it weights ?

[Ed Storey]

Originally Posted by Robert Bergeron

Got a box off a LSVW yesterday . It took about an hour to get the nuts off . They were rusted . Had to cut a bolt or two . Lifted it off the truck with a solid fork lift and voilà ! From what i have been reading off of Rob Love ´s CUCV thread it’s corners are rounded and that’s correct . Those are the boxes that were retained and refurbished by CORCAN . Now comes the question : To install the box on my frame or not ? I have a cargo box with security cage now . Pros & Cons . Thanks .

From my perspective, it is about preserving history, not altering it. The story behind these office LSVWs is that the 20-year-old office bodies were removed from the Chevrolets, refurbished by CORCAN, and installed on the new vehicles. Once you replace the body with something else, then that story is gone. Plus, with the office body, you can reequip it with all of the things it would have once held. Even using the office as a camper is a good solution as it still preserves the integrity of the vehicle.

[maple_leaf_eh]

Originally Posted by super dave

I guess it all depends what you want to use it for. I use mine as a camper for doing long distance club events.

In the 70s I saw a trailer that the 12eRBC had set up as the CO (or OCs) accommodations in the field. It was a 3/4t SMP trailer with no external distinctions, but there was a bed, flooring, a table and maybe some storage under the tarp. The Sgt giving us the tour in the compound explained simply that if the CO gets too tired, he stops making good decisions for the rest of the unit. And that is when the problems happen.

[Robert Bergeron]

Thanks Dave , Ed and Terry. I certainly saved this box . Does someone know how many were recycled by Corcan ? Terry , officers are a necessary evil . I always felt necessary but never evil .

[Ed Storey]

Originally Posted by Robert Bergeron

Thanks Dave , Ed and Terry. I certainly saved this box . Does someone know how many were recycled by Corcan ? Terry , officers are a necessary evil . I always felt necessary but never evil .

The existing 5/4T shelters, were known as the multi-purpose van bodies (MPVB) and put through a life extension program. The refurbishment was carried out by Correctional Services Canada at three institutions across the country through sponsorship by the Life Cycle Materiel Manager. This effort enabled the MPVBs to remain serviceable well beyond the year 2000. Prior to the installation of MPVBs onto the LSVW chassis, some additional work by the contractor was required. The existing four point mounting system was replaced by six mounting points in order to mate to the LSVW chassis. The new mounting system featured vibration dampening and was common to the cargo and utility body styles.

[Robin Craig]

As part of my documenting the LSVW coming in to service I managed to get at least one picture of a trailer load of van bodies fresh from refurb being delivered to DEW Engineering for eventual fitment to the vehicles.

I did go back later and get a guided tour through the DEW facility when the trailers were being built. Each one was personally viewed by Elvis, or at least a bust of him high on the shop wall. I have to dig them out some day and air them, task 4325-2 for this week.....

[Robert Bergeron]

Thank you Ed and Robin . Dave here are your pictures . Two questions remain : How many were refurbished and how much do they weight ? Thanks .

[rob love]

Here are a couple that were listed on CADC in the past while. Weight is given as 1268kg.



https://www.gcsurplus.ca/mn-eng.cfm?...L&sf=ferm-clos


https://www.gcsurplus.ca/mn-eng.cfm?...L&sf=ferm-clos

[Robert Bergeron]

Thank you Rob . That’s nearly 2800 Lbs !! That’s heavy on the poor little LSVW ! Here is the interior of the two recent sells .

[Robert Bergeron]

Hi all . The box exchange is now done . Here is the result. The box seller kept the stairs so i adapted a MLVW set .

[Robert Bergeron]

The box was empty of any accessories when i got it . I started by painting the interior to cover the brown and beige used by a prior owner . I then added a table , a wall storage cabinet and 110 V lighting provided by a workshop neon unit i found in a MLVW box of mine .

[Robert Bergeron]

The rear door in the brown colour used by the prior owner . Q : What colour would the original rear door of been ? Light green like the interior , darker green like the outside of the box ?