Ford heating (cold weather equipment)

[Vic Eaton]

HELLO ALL
DOES ANYBODY KNOW MUCH ABOUT THE FORD HEATING STSTEM I HAVE THE FAN THAT BLEW THE HOT AIR AND I AM TOLD IT BLEW ACCROSS THE MANIFOLD IF SO A LEAKY MANIFOLD COULD BE SOMEWHAT OF A HAZARD I WOULD THINK I HAVE A MERCURY V8 ENGINE AND CANNOT SEE ANY TAKE OFF FOR WATER
VIC UK

[Alex Blair (RIP)]

Vic ..
Part of the Arctic kit was a heater that attached into the exhaust system exactly like a muffler(Silencer for y'all....)
It had two (Inlet and outlet ports) for cab air that was ducteted to the windshield(Translation...windscreen)
See Scan.......
This device is a sealed heatexchanger and does NOT use exhaust fumes for heating direct...
I tryed to scan an image but file size too big..I cut it down to 60% and was still too big ..I'll work on it later...Work time ...gotta go...

[Vic Eaton]

HELLO ALEX
Yes i can see what you are saying i got this fan unit from nordian services the ford people if ever there were, and wally at that time said it just had a shroud type cover that went over the right hand manifold thats looking at the vehicle from the front and thats where this fan i have fits to the cylinder block at times we used to come accross fords but were engaged on rebuilding chevs but still dismantled them and kept the parts and i have always wondered about this fan its a new one never been used
and ive always wondered if it was realy a ford part i was assured it was but could imagine the exaust manifold leaking into the shroud and the fan blowing carbon monoxide into the cab i have quite a few parts of the ford winterised kit including the primer pump jets that fit below the carb and all the ducting parts but not the piping so although we are not doing a ford i still find it interesting as to how that system was fitted and worked without poisoning the driver vic uk

[Alex Blair (RIP)]

It would be easy to build once you see it..If I can get this sucker below 102 kilogiggles or what ever is holding up production..I wish there was some way to tell the size before we post.. I gotta be going to the wrong church...at least sittin' in the wrong pew.. Try this... If I keep at it I amaze myself...

There you go Vic.. The Arctic heating system..

[Vic Eaton]

HELLO ALEX
Yes thats the fan unit i have and the other parts are the same and i understand how the heat exchanger would work, but how is the heat exchanger fitted in relation to the manifold does it suround it or does it come off the exhaust at some other point
thanks for the continued help alex vic uk.

[Vic Eaton]

HELLO AGAIN ALEX
Sorry alex i just read your last post and it tells me what ive just asked you as you say it goes from the exhaust at some point
its the old eyes you know didnt have my glasses that day
regards vic uk .

[m606paz]

Hi boys!
On our late F15A will find a cap that closes a hole.

What function does?



From another Ford

[m606paz]

Many thanks Mike Cecil for the reply...

Originally Posted by Mike Cecil

I think it is for fitting the heater system. You probably have slots in the upper cab frame below the windscreen, too.Page F1-12 of CMP Vehicles Data Book, Canadian Army, states 'Ford Vehicles were fitted with an exhaust heat exchanger from which conduits were arranged to windshield defrosters, driver's feet and cab compartment...' The aperture shown in Mariano's post is the cabin outlet. The diagram on page F1-12 seems to indicate the cabin outlet and driver's feet outlets are one and the same.

...and Terje André Bråten for the pic!

[Mike Cecil]

Always happy to assist, except I think I made an error in saying "The diagram on page F1-12 seems to indicate the cabin outlet and driver's feet outlets are one and the same."

The diagram shows outlets aimed downward (with arrows) just before the windshield outlets, which I had not noted before. These seem to have a manual open/shut lever, and I suspect these are the vents aimed into the driver's and passenger's footwells. So the driver's feet outlet and the cabin outlet are not one and the same as I previously stated.

Mike

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by m606paz

Many thanks Mike Cecil for the reply and Terje André Bråten for the pic!

And this thread http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/showthread.php?t=888

Interesting subject!

[m606paz]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

And this thread http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/showthread.php?t=888

Interesting subject!

Thank you Hanno!!

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by m606paz

Thank you Hanno!!

And thanks for your pics. Have now merged the two threads to build up our common body of knowledge.

The big question is: how much difference was there between the cold weather equipment for Ford and Chevrolet CMPs?

See the thread SCWE (Special Cold Weather Equipment) Maintenance Manual

Ref. text below: "some company variations existed"?

[m606paz]

Big holes on body for the defroster system??

[m606paz]

I found one defroster nozzle

[m606paz]

More parts found , C39QA-18478. Any diagram for the right side cross pipe ? Correct?

[Tony Smith]

Very nice! Not something often found in such good condition.

[David Dunlop]

Mariano.

What areas of Argentina would the Army have needed to install the cold weather equipment in their CMP’s?


David

[m606paz]

As I have commented on other occasions, it seems that we receive tons of leftover parts from World War II, and many have never been placed or changed in the vehicles. It seems to be the case of these exhaust pipes, which were new in wooden crates, of course the wood deteriorated after a long time, but they are unused parts. What David asks, I would say that the Andes and Patagonia have extreme climates, but not as cold as the arctic, that is why they must not have had heating, nor do I think they knew that this had arrived to be installed and used for heat.

[maple_leaf_eh]

Originally Posted by m606paz

..... What David asks, I would say that the Andes and Patagonia have extreme climates, but not as cold as the arctic, that is why they must not have had heating, nor do I think they knew that this had arrived to be installed and used for heat.

Argentina and Chile have temperate climates that range for coastal to high alpine, temperate subtropical to subarctic. Chile is narrower and has 16 distinct regions, based on geography and economics. The older I get the more I want to learn Spanish and travel in South America.

[m606paz]

The defroster nozzle is installed...
What do you think? Original? Or belong to other vehicle?
The holes on both sides...?

[Scott Cacciamani]

here is a heater on a 1939 ford car. Rare item

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Some photos of found on our MLU FB page. A Ford F60L 3-ton truck with SCWE parts. Note the battery box and the window vents.




More interesting is the data plate listing the usual manuals but with a "W" added, denoting this truck was Winterized. Rhett Fisher used to have a MB-F1W: "It was very interesting, though quite a palaver involving dumping a set amount of fuel into the sump (oil pan)".