Crap.

[sapper740]

Originally Posted by servicepub

I don't want to preach to the masses here but responsible gun-owners are well served when idiots like this are reported to the police (that's assuming you know he/she owns a gun). The Firearms Centre mainatains a phone line to report gun issues like this. If more people would drop a dime on these idiots we would have fewer Dawson's and the responsible gunowner would benefit by not being lumped in with these ass-holes. Call 1-800-731-4000 and listen for the prompt that brings you to the Public Safety extension.

Good advice, the sooner we lock up the crazies and KEEP them locked up the better off we all will be. Domestic violence is a serious issue and I hope a physical search for weapons is made every time police are called to a dispute. I say physical because, of course, unregistered guns won't show up on the computer. Police in Canada now routinely ask women whether they have any opposition to their ex-spouse renewing their F.A.C. (I believe y'all call it a P.A.L. now). I was dismayed to hear of this requirement after my divorce because ESoS (Evil Spawn of Satan), otherwise known as my ex-wife revelled in the glory of creating grief for me. Fortunately, I was very well known both to the Firearm's Community and RCMP in Langley and after warnings about uttering false statements, ESoS admitted she had no REAL opposition to renewing of my FAC/PAL.
However, I can already hear the harrumphing of Liberal politicians in Ottawa as they queue for the mike on the floor of the House of Commons to decry the lax gun laws in Canada which allow such tragedies as the one in Cranbrook. I'm sorry Ma, am I rambling? None of this is meant to take away from what you must be experiencing, I just hope that now things will settle down next door and peace will once again reign. Derek.

What is FAC/PAL? I'm assuming the first part of FAC is fire arms???

Pretty quiet around here as I'm the only one in the house since the afternoon after this happened when I'm sure everyone knew by then he had passed away. The womans daughter and kid who were staying downstairs (while waiting to move into their house) have not been back to spend time or nights there since they found out what happened.

The less aggressive and more peaceful one from that apartment is no longer with us so the quiet and uneventfulness may be short lived until she comes home and things will be same old same old scenarios I'm sure. Haven't talked to the landlord since the night it happened and next time we talk or get together we will be talking about a lot regards the situations in this house and about actually doing something, unpleasant as it is.

Ma

[sapper740]

Originally Posted by Vets Dottir 2nd

What is FAC/PAL? I'm assuming the first part of FAC is fire arms???

Ma

The Firearms Acquisition Certificate was replaced around the turn of the century by the Possession and Acquistion Licence. Derek.

Thanks Derek

BTW ... have just been chatting with a neighbor from the next house over and was told that my landlord told them yesterday what happened her, and the good news that I hope is true, that the woman/tenant has been told she has to move out so she is moving out ... please let this be true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!! And let landlord actually screen and be careful about who he rents to this time. PLEASE!!!!

Ma

[Rookie]

Sorry to hear of your recent trauma Vets. Having spent 30 yrs in the Police in New Zealand we attended a number of incidents like that. Funny thing is we have firearms everywhere in this country but like most states in Australia there are strict procedures over licences. e.g. the spouse of a near relative is interviewed about you and your house inspected before a licence is issued.

Hope you have a quieter life now

regards

Rookie

Originally Posted by Rookie

Sorry to hear of your recent trauma Vets. Having spent 30 yrs in the Police in New Zealand we attended a number of incidents like that. Funny thing is we have firearms everywhere in this country but like most states in Australia there are strict procedures over licences. e.g. the spouse of a near relative is interviewed about you and your house inspected before a licence is issued.

Hope you have a quieter life now

regards

Rookie

Thanks Rookie.

Oh well. Such is life I guess. It was only a "rumor" that landlord asked the other tenant to move. She's staying and has bought herself a new bed (bed where suicide happened)
So my neighbors will remain my neighbors and all that they are and do. Am not happy but it is what it is. Landlord always says "one more thing and she's out" or along those lines. He's "soft".

Ma.

[Jon Skagfeld]

Originally Posted by Vets Dottir 2nd

Thanks Derek

BTW ... have just been chatting with a neighbor from the next house over and was told that my landlord told them yesterday what happened her, and the good news that I hope is true, that the woman/tenant has been told she has to move out so she is moving out ... please let this be true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!! And let landlord actually screen and be careful about who he rents to this time. PLEASE!!!!

Ma

Yappy:

Two points:

1. Quit yer bitchin'. Be thankful you don't live in Toronto where what you described is almost an hourly occurrence.

2. You sound like you were taken aback upon finding out that there were firearms next door.

Well,last time you visited my place, you slept well even though you knew, and were shown, the "toys" which I legally own. Matter of fact, didn't I casually excuse myself, go outside and shoot a pesky squirrel?

Originally Posted by Jon Skagfeld

Yappy:

Two points:

1. Quit yer bitchin'. Be thankful you don't live in Toronto where what you described is almost an hourly occurrence.

Ok. And I am thankful I don't live in Toronto.

2. You sound like you were taken aback upon finding out that there were firearms next door.

Only taken aback by WHO had the gun - guns - people into explosive violent rages against others when pissed off or frustrated (even for little frustrations)as a normal way of coping. Rage-aholics I think is the trendy term. Serious domestic assault/violence, generally drunkenness involved, has happened there a number of times requiring police to come. Police also visited them in past searching for an acquaintance of theirs who was on the run, a "bad dude", I think for murder.

Well,last time you visited my place, you slept well even though you knew, and were shown, the "toys" which I legally own. Matter of fact, didn't I casually excuse myself, go outside and shoot a pesky squirrel?

Yuk. I forgot about the squirrel, but remembered about the bird Thanks for the memories

Jon, apples and oranges here. You aren't like them. Big difference in who owns the gun and how they will use them. Guns not my issue, guns in the hands of people like this are. These are the kinds of people who make it hard for people like you, responsible gun owners, because when they lose it and shit happens because they used it violently against others in rage or to do a crime, so many people get in an uproar about banning all guns in an all-or-nothing paranoid action etc. I'm still surprized (and relieved) to know this at least was a suicide, not a murder, as was my immediate thought when the police told me what happened.

Apples and oranges.