Crap.

In this sad situation its not how I'd like peace and quiet to come no matter how much I'd like to be anywhere but around the behaviors that have been happening and causing problems for the rest of us and would like to see them moved out. I have no update as to whether he survived or not. Its still only 5:00 am or so here. I really know very little details and couldn't give much info to the RCMP Officer but gave enough to satisfy her I guess.

I just wonder how the hell a gun could go off in this house in another apartment and me not notice the different sound and KNOW it was a gun shot???? very strange? No? Yes? though there was a lot of loud banging off and on. I think what I thought was a very hard slammed bedroom window in their apartment may have been the big bang of the gun, in thinking back. I dunno. Normal to hear loud sounds/bangs/bumps etc from there sometimes so didn't think much about it. There was a lot of people and activities and loudness off and on throughout the day and evening over there so it just sort of blended in for me I guess.

Ma

[Alex Blair (RIP)]

Originally Posted by Vets Dottir 2nd

In this sad situation its not how I'd like peace and quiet to come no matter how much I'd like to be anywhere but around the behaviors that have been happening and causing problems for the rest of us and would like to see them moved out. I have no update as to whether he survived or not. Its still only 5:00 am or so here. I really know very little details and couldn't give much info to the RCMP Officer but gave enough to satisfy her I guess.

I just wonder how the hell a gun could go off in this house in another apartment and me not notice the different sound and KNOW it was a gun shot???? very strange? No? Yes? though there was a lot of loud banging off and on. I think what I thought was a very hard slammed bedroom window in their apartment may have been the big bang of the gun, in thinking back. I dunno. Normal to hear loud sounds/bangs/bumps etc from there sometimes so didn't think much about it. There was a lot of people and activities and loudness off and on throughout the day and evening over there so it just sort of blended in for me I guess.

Ma

Ma ..
It depends on the situation and method used when the gun is fired..
Noise comes from the explosion of powder AND the speed of the bullet breaking the sound barrier,much like a jet that makes a "sonic boom" when it breaks the sound barrier..
If the gun is fired when it is held against the body,there is only the bullet explosion sound and the "sonic boom" does not occur ,as the bullet must pass through an air space..
So although there will be noise it may be muffled or reduced ,and it depends what calibre of gun is used..
A .22 short is sub sonic and is quite quiet when muffled,but will kill you just as dead as a larger bullet..but usually when one decides to commit sewer pipe with a gun,noise is the least of there worries..

My only real experience with hearing guns go off, that I can recall, is when I was a teenager out deerhunting with my fiance and foster brother, and then that was a rifle shot with the long drawn out sound. I've called cops a couple of times in past to report what I thought were gunshots, they sounded like the drawn out sounds hunting rifle shots but who knows, coulda been backfires? Never really thought about "distance" and differences that would make as to sound (why would that occur to me?) so thanks for pointing that out to me. Makes total sense to me.

You know, I've just been assuming the guy used a handgun. A rifle never occurred to me, but someone asked me what kind of gun was used, rifle or hand, but I don't know. I know zip about guns except there are rifles and handguns and what I call soldiers guns like now of course, thanks to MLU edumacation I can name bren guns and sten guns etc (makes me miss Rupert!!!) but I still don't know what they sound like in real life. TV shots is about all I have to compare things to and I'm sure the sounds are really different in real time.

All joking aside, this sucks here.

Ma

BTW when you say 22 short, I think of 22's as rifles ... so you're talking a rifle, correct? By "short" do you mean the nozzle end is short like a hand gun nozzle? (why do I even ask, geez)

[sapper740]

Originally Posted by Vets Dottir 2nd

BTW when you say 22 short, I think of 22's as rifles ... so you're talking a rifle, correct? By "short" do you mean the nozzle end is short like a hand gun nozzle? (why do I even ask, geez)

Ma, learning cartridge designations is like learning a new language, in fact, it's a school unto itself. I've been a devoted student of firearms for decades and I now proudly declare myself a One Percenter. That is, I now know 1 percent of all the firearms knowledge there is in the world, which is about 10,000 times more than what the average citizen knows. Anyone who tells you they know more than that has either been at it a whole lot longer than I, or they truly don't understand the breadth of the subject.

When Alex mentioned .22 Short, he was referring to a cartridge, not a firearm, one of the many .22 Rimfires available. A few others are: BB cap, CB cap, CB Long, .22 Short, .22 Long, .22 Long Rifle, .22 Magnum Rimfire, .22 Shotshell, .22 Auto, ....see what I mean.
As for not hearing the shot itself, that is entirely understandable. There are many cartridges where the bullet doesn't exceed the speed of sound (approx. 1100f/sec.) so the only noise you could have heard would have been the muzzle blast. A barrel placed tightly against clothing would have been muffled enough to blend into the background noise you so often heard from next door. Once again, you have my sympathy for the goings on next door. Derek.

Hey thanks Alex and Derek for the guns and cartridges 101. Some things a woman just don't wanna learn, but hey, learn she does

I wanna toss my cookies about now. Just was out my door for a minute and see bedding draped over the neighbors railing and blood stained cloths tossed on our walkway that weren't there last night. I hope landlord stops by and makes her get rid of that stuff properly instead of tossing it in the walkway like she often tosses her garbage and leaves it there blocking the way for everyone else until she gets motivated to take a trip to the garbage cans. Screw the neighbors is the usual way but this blood stained stuff is a bit too far ...........

Sorry, am very cranky right now after seeing that and fed up. Bad mood Ma (this too shall pass)

[Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP)]

Originally Posted by Vets Dottir 2nd

I wanna toss my cookies about now. Just was out my door for a minute and see bedding draped over the neighbors railing and blood stained cloths tossed on our walkway that weren't there last night. I hope landlord stops by and makes her get rid of that stuff properly instead of tossing it in the walkway like she often tosses her garbage and leaves it there blocking the way for everyone else until she gets motivated to take a trip to the garbage cans. Screw the neighbors is the usual way but this blood stained stuff is a bit too far ...........

That's a potential bio-hazard. Call the cops and ask them what to do about it if the stuff is still there.

[Alex Blair (RIP)]

Originally Posted by Vets Dottir 2nd

BTW when you say 22 short, I think of 22's as rifles ... so you're talking a rifle, correct? By "short" do you mean the nozzle end is short like a hand gun nozzle? (why do I even ask, geez)

Ma

Read this..It is pretty well laid out..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_Short

Originally Posted by Alex Blair

Ma

Read this..It is pretty well laid out..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_Short

Okay. Cool. A pictures worth a thousand words! Works for me Alex, thanks, I get the picture now

[sapper740]

Originally Posted by Vets Dottir 2nd

My only real experience with hearing guns go off, that I can recall, is when I was a teenager out deerhunting with my fiance and foster brother, and then that was a rifle shot with the long drawn out sound. I've called cops a couple of times in past to report what I thought were gunshots, they sounded like the drawn out sounds hunting rifle shots but who knows, coulda been backfires? Never really thought about "distance" and differences that would make as to sound (why would that occur to me?) so thanks for pointing that out to me. Makes total sense to me.

You know, I've just been assuming the guy used a handgun. A rifle never occurred to me, but someone asked me what kind of gun was used, rifle or hand, but I don't know. I know zip about guns except there are rifles and handguns and what I call soldiers guns like now of course, thanks to MLU edumacation I can name bren guns and sten guns etc (makes me miss Rupert!!!) but I still don't know what they sound like in real life. TV shots is about all I have to compare things to and I'm sure the sounds are really different in real time.

All joking aside, this sucks here.

Ma

Ma, I'm so sorry to hear what happened in the apartment next to you, it must be tremendously distressing. My hope is that with the boyfriend gone to meet his maker, things will quiet doen for you, although they will never be the same again. Derek.

Thanks Derek, and yeah, I'm really sorry too, and yeah again, extremely distressing to me. I don't know if he passed away but judging by the woman Officers response when I asked her, I got the impression that it was pretty severe damage and iffy. Won't know anything until I get an update and I'm not about to go in search of updates. Am sure my landlord will call me and fill me in later. He's pretty upset about this stuff happening here too.

BTW, the guy is the pleasanter quieter one though explosive and obnoxious at times. Very quiet and pretty good around here when just him at home usually. If I had to choose, I would choose him as the neighbor over the woman any day.