Black Watch of Canada, vehicle unit Markings ww2

[Aidan]

Would anyone have photo's of Unit markings of the Canadian Black watch in Universal carriers or CMP's?when they were in Italy and later in France. Thankyou
Aidan

[Ed Storey]

Photographs of the Black Watch R.H.R. of Canada Carriers in Italy will be very difficult to find as the Regiment did not fight in Italy. As part of the 2nd Canadian Infnatry Division the Regiment fought in NW Europe.

You might want to do a bit more on line research of this very famous and popular regiment on your own before you start asking others for help. I just googled the regiment and there is enough material to satisfy the casual enthusiast. As well, the Library and Archives Canada has a wonderful site, Faces of War, Google that and search for Black Watch.

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Originally Posted by edstorey

Photographs of the Black Watch R.H.R. of Canada Carriers in Italy will be very difficult to find as the Regiment did not fight in Italy. As part of the 2nd Canadian Infnatry Division the Regiment fought in NW Europe.

You might want to do a bit more on line research of this very famous and popular regiment on your own before you start asking others for help. I just googled the regiment and there is enough material to satisfy the casual enthusiast. As well, the Library and Archives Canada has a wonderful site, Faces of War, Google that and search for Black Watch.

Ahhh... I see the "buy a book" crowd have grown tired of running people off the CSC site and have settled here. Beware!! Post not until you have exhausted all archival and primary source material.

Good luck Aidan, I hope you find some pics.

[Stewart Loy]

Originally Posted by Bruce Parker

Ahhh... I see the "buy a book" crowd have grown tired of running people off the CSC site and have settled here.

Bruce,

You scamp - are you going to the OMVA show in Acton? I suspect that there will be Fox parts, books, and many other delights there.

There is so little snow up this way that even Skagfeld might come!


Stewart

[pzrwest]

When I need specific unit markings I call up the unit or unit museum and ask them. Usually the unit has a unit historian and he can usually direct you to the info or put you intouch with the unit museum etc

[Barry Churcher]

I guess I do this wrong. I always like to ask on a forum for answers. Be it military vehicles, tractors or whatever, there is always someone more than willing to share their knowledge with others. They want to share their research. If no one asked any questions, even stupid ones like I do sometimes, ( I said that before Simundson thought it) where would this forum be? The other great thing about someone like Aidan asking a question about something that relates to him, others like myself learn from the answers.
mvg,
Barry

[Jon Skagfeld]

Originally Posted by Stewart Loy

Bruce,

You scamp - are you going to the OMVA show in Acton? I suspect that there will be Fox parts, books, and many other delights there.

There is so little snow up this way that even Skagfeld might come!


Stewart

Stewart and Bruce...both of you are so cruuuuuel!

[Aidan]

thanks Eddy!

[Aidan]

Thankyou Mr. Parker

Aidan

[Jordan Baker]

Here is the Collections Canada Faces of War site. I find it reasonably easy to search. If you go to the advanced settings you can choose from lists of various regiments also. Best of luck.

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/f...14-2000-e.html


And I just did a quick search for the "Black Watch". 23 pictures come up with only 1 having a Carrier and its a T-16.

[Ed Storey]

Who said anything about buying a book? All I did is suggest that someone interested in the Black Watch R.H.R. of Canada might want to try doing a little at home research before asking everyone else to do it for him.

But now that you mention it, there are some pretty good books on the Regiment....

[Mark W. Tonner]

Originally Posted by Aidan

Would anyone have photo's of Unit markings of the Canadian Black watch in Universal carriers or CMP's?when they were in Italy and later in France. Thankyou
Aidan

Hi Aidan;

Before this thread gets totally out of hand ...

Below are examples of the basic Arm of Service (60) and the Formation (2 Cdn Inf Div) markings as used by the RHC in NWE - 1944-45. The maple leaf could be either yellow or gold in colour.

References:

a. - From: VEHICLE MARKING FIELD UNITS CDN ARMY OVERSEAS - Amended 28 Jan 1944: - under NUMERICAL INDEX FOR VEH MARKINGS - para 3 - Fmn signs are described below: - 2nd Cdn Inf Div - Blue square with gold maple leaf superimposed.

b. - From: CANADIAN MILITARY HEADQUARTERS 1/Signs/2/4 (SD 3b2) to HQ First Cdn Army (SD) - entitled: Veh Markings, dated 29 Mar 44 - under APPENDIX 'A' to W.O. Letter 57/Vehs (A)/648/8(S.W.V.3) dated 28 March 1944 - under STANDARD VEHICLE MARKINGS FOR AN INFANTRY DIVISION: - under Bdes: - under the second HQ Inf Bde entry: - for the first Inf Bn of the Bde - Serial No.: 60 - Colour Background: Green

c. - From: VEHICLE MARKING FIELD UNITS FIRST CDN ARMY, dated 10 June 1944 - on page 10 - 2 CDN INF DIV: - under 5 CDN INF BDE - RHC - SERIAL No.: 60 - BACKGROUND: Green

Hope this helps

Cheers

[Aidan]

Thanks Mark , That was all I was looking for. As for the other post's From other MLU's very helpful thankyou , As for the Ledsels post , Thanks for watching my back! As for Ed's post ?well... i'll go no farther. Aidan

[Ledsel]

SERVICEPUB, If the shoe fits then wear it. Enough said.

[servicepub (RIP)]

Aiden,
This is probably Queen's Own Rifles on D-Day but I don't have the actual caption material or date of the photograph. The QOR also used the Arm of Service (AoS) number '60' but their yellow/gold Maple Leaf was painted on a rectangle of French Grey (bleu d'horizon).
In any event it will show you placement of the markings.

Clive

[Jordan Baker]

Clive, that picture is QOR's. By the time 2nd Div landed a month later the beach had somewhat become less hostile.

Aidan, from my memory, the maple leaf would either be yellow or gold. If early war it would have a C with II superimposed on the maple leaf.

[servicepub (RIP)]

Originally Posted by Jordan Baker

... By the time 2nd Div landed a month later the beach had somewhat become less hostile...

Ah, so it's not a driver training issue then?