Serial Numbers

[Mike K]

Originally Posted by Jim Price

Thanks, Rob and Mike!
Am I to assume that my F8 is more than likely a 1940 "model"?

Regards,
Jim

Well, they may have used 1940 civilian parts in it here and there. I am not that sure on F8's, having never seen one. We got the superior version out here ! Even then , they were tainted with Ford parts in the cab area.

[cletrac (RIP)]

Jim, all the Cab 11s should be 1940 models. The Cab 12 came in in late 1940 (Nov or Dec). Having said that I suppose there could have been a few that got assembled with 11 Cab parts after that but who knows? On my Cab 11 F15A the serial number is stamped in the vertical part of the frame under the passengers door. Any Cab 11 or 12 Fords I've looked at had the number there. On these trucks the serial number is the same as the engine serial number.

[David_Hayward (RIP)]

So far as Chevrolets were concerned ALL British orders were '1941' Models, with production starting in September 1940, BUT run-out Canadian orders were '1940 Models'. The change-over was possibly at # 084XX04002 AND 184XX05004.

Fords started their British production at the very end of August, a few days before GM. There were definitely # 11 Cab British 1941 Chevrolets because of the differentiation by Oshawa. Now I am put on the spot I assumed that the same applied to Fords. So I checked the 1940-41 Ford monthly engine #s and the last 1940 '1G' prefixed were as at October 1st, and there was a very short overlap I think with the 1941 Model '2G' series which officially also started October 1st 1940. It is just possible that '1940' production continued whilst '1941' engines were produced to meet contractual requirements.

On the basis that Windsor production started in early Autumn, there must have been '1940' Model British # 11 Cabs, although internally they may have been classified as '1941'. At the time of course the engine # was the identifier for Fords. There were definitely 1940-built # 11 cabs for the British and as suggested by D.P. there may have been '1941' # 11 cabs Ford for either countries.

I must add that this amazing overlpa of Model Years was to remain unique.

[Jim Price]

David (Hayward):
Thanks for your input on my question regarding the number on the front cross member of my F8. When I checked my parts manual dated January 1942, the front cross member in it was numbered 5019 not 5020. Interesting!?!? Wonder if my part came from civilian stock?

Regards,
Jim

[Jim Price]

David (Haward):
Got under the door on the passenger side and wire-brushed the frame. Lo and behold, there was this number: 1G-6461 F* Also looked at the motor block and it was numbered C69A on the bell housing.

Thanks again!

Regards,
Jim

[cletrac (RIP)]

Jim, I'd guess with that motor number that it would have been made in June of 1940. It must have been one of the first ones with the cab vents. My F15A is 1G-10495 and it would have been made in August 1940.

[rob love]

Rick Yuke from MooseJaw had a F15 that was just a bit under the 6000 serial number if I recall, and he did not have the vents, so cletrac's timelines are right on. I had F-15A serial 1G10616 as my first CMP restoration.

If someone has Peter Ford's old infoex data, Rick's serial number was in there. I believe his truck was sold to Alberta, mind you.

[Tony Smith]

Originally Posted by Jim Price

David (Haward):
Got under the door on the passenger side and wire-brushed the frame. Lo and behold, there was this number: 1G-6461 F* Also looked at the motor block and it was numbered C69A on the bell housing.

Thanks again!

Regards,
Jim

The C69A engine block casting is a postwar 1946 model. The engine number itself is found in a variety of places, like the flats of the Inlet Manifold surface, and sometimes not even on the engine itself (ie: Could be on the bellhousing)! Look in these locations for the number:

[Jim Price]

Thanks, David, Tony and Rob for your input on the serial and engine block numbers! The historical info adds to the story of my truck!

Regards,
Jim

[Jim Price]

David:
Thanks for clearing that up! Although there had been references to the serial number being stamped on the frame under the door on the passenger side, I had assumned that it was under the floor on the top edge of the frame. Will check out that vertical location tomorrow!
Regards,
Jim