New 2 Pounder Carrier Project 6191 Arrives

BSHEVLIN · #1 31-05-08, 06:19

My new 2 pounder carrier project has arrived this morning.
which i bought at Corowa 2008

Had a problem offloading, due to loading ramp was to high

So i had to push the carrier off, using a nearby hill .

using a snatch strap to travel about 1km to my residence.

the carrier will be moved in the next few days to the museum only about 500m away and start the restoration at the tank museum. the vehicle will be on display their temporally, till i go back to Darwin at the end of the year and i will take it up with me, and finish the rest up their

Fun times ahead with the Carrier as this is my first WW2 project i normally work with post war Pommy shit!! eg Ferret,Saladin,Centurion

BSHEVLIN · #2 15-06-08, 07:05

on friday afternoon i moved my carrier down to the pucka tank museum for storage and to use the worksops

i used a mack HRV to A frame it.

got some very strange looks from lots of people on the base as i was traveling down to road

Bob Moseley (RIP) · #3 16-06-08, 02:09

No wonder, strangest looking Carrier I have seen. Must be a variant.

Bob

Ledsel · #4 16-06-08, 03:48

Is there something wierd about the suspension on that carrier? Looks like it has had a few feet added to it's length.

cletrac (RIP) · #5 16-06-08, 05:12

You must have some pretty good help to make that much of a transformation in a single day!

BSHEVLIN · #6 16-06-08, 09:02

oops!!!!

wrong pic that is a ASLAV-R being towed behind the wrecker

the carrier looks very small at the moment it is parked next to a lvt at the museum at the moment

Plushy · #7 16-06-08, 15:14

Good to hear you picked up your prize Brenton . got the Saladin back together yet ? I will give you a ring when i get a free moment

BSHEVLIN · #8 17-06-08, 14:34

saladin is back to gether now and running better that it ever has no leaks and the brakes are working really well

my mechanic done a bloody good job on the hydraulics as well

it will be sad to see it go

gjamo · #9 23-06-08, 13:22

Will be in Darwin Saturday if anyone wants specific photos in east point museum. Just let me know.
Graeme

Bob Carriere · #10 23-06-08, 21:49

Seems to be a lot of modification done to this carrier.....

Looks like the engine as been moved forward off center and next to the driver...... and the front hull extended....... now sitting nose heavy without the 2 pounder mounted in the rear....

Do we have an archival picture of the completed two pounder in service....?

How was the drive shaft routed on the floor???? sideways...

If the transmission shifting rods for the typical UC were complicated this arrangement must have been a nightmare...???

Must a been a great vehicle for engaging the enemy during a tactical retreat!!

Just curious.

Boob

Alex Blair (RIP) · #11 23-06-08, 21:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Carriere

Seems to be a lot of modification done to this carrier.....

Looks like the engine as been moved forward off center and next to the driver...... and the front hull extended....... now sitting nose heavy without the 2 pounder mounted in the rear....

Do we have an archival picture of the completed two pounder in service....?

How was the drive shaft routed on the floor???? sideways...

If the transmission shifting rods for the typical UC were complicated this arrangement must have been a nightmare...???

Must a been a great vehicle for engaging the enemy during a tactical retreat!!

Just curious.

Boob

Bob.
The 2 pounders all had the engine mounted beside the driver..from the factory..
It was a different arrangement to allow a two pounder to be mounted where the engine normally goes in the carrier..
Got any pix of CC7..??

Bob Carriere · #12 23-06-08, 22:06

Hi Alex

Just finished looking at the magic Collins did to create an Australian pattern mortar carrier..... it explains the funny engine position.

CC 7 pics will go up this evening...... had to submit them to censor first.

Bob

Ledsel · #13 24-06-08, 02:05

I wonder why they wouldn't have used a similar wheel arrangement as a T16 to balance out the carrier for this purpose?

Lynn Eades · #14 24-06-08, 07:59

If there is an LP1 up there, some photos would be great thanks. I.D. plate, dash board/ instruments, brake actuators, any and all.

Keith Webb · #15 24-06-08, 08:52

Here are a couple of contemporary pics.

More here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Carriere

Seems to be a lot of modification done to this carrier.....

Looks like the engine as been moved forward off center and next to the driver...... and the front hull extended....... now sitting nose heavy without the 2 pounder mounted in the rear....

Do we have an archival picture of the completed two pounder in service....?

How was the drive shaft routed on the floor???? sideways...

If the transmission shifting rods for the typical UC were complicated this arrangement must have been a nightmare...???

Must a been a great vehicle for engaging the enemy during a tactical retreat!!

Just curious.

Boob

BSHEVLIN · #16 24-06-08, 09:01

the drive line comes straight out of the transmission to to diff by a tail shaft in my carrier

but the original vehicles had a transfer case to the diff so the tail shaft would be straight.

my vehicle runs a diagonal shaft as it does not have a Tcase.

Tony Smith · #17 24-06-08, 12:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Carriere

Seems to be a lot of modification done to this carrier.....
If the transmission shifting rods for the typical UC were complicated this arrangement must have been a nightmare...???

Boob

The shifting rods for the transmission were much simplified compared to the UC, but the location of the shift lever in a cramped driver's compartment was a nightmare for anyone +/- the ideal height and build!

I can understand why Colin's Replica Mortar Carrier has a 302 and Auto combo.

BSHEVLIN · #18 24-06-08, 12:34

i am 6ft and can only operate the clutch it in the lowest seat position viewing from the viewing ports only in 2 pounder cars

or i just put a screw driver in the seat ajuster halfway but is a little bit dodgy when going cross counrty

but i no somebody who has put a 351 gt falcon engine with a 4 spd auto in thier lp2 which has been modded for off roading / trail blazing and cut dowwn to the hull and bathtubed

BSHEVLIN · #19 24-06-08, 12:37

wher did you get the drive line pics from tony ?

Tony Smith · #20 24-06-08, 13:31

They're of the original mock-up of the Tracked Truck, 1 ton (which didn't ultimately follow this design), but it does show the arrangement of the 2pdr and 3" Mortar Carrier drivelines.

Lynn Eades · #21 25-06-08, 00:47

I note that Brenton has not 1, not 2, but 3 of these wheels on his carrier.
Each wheel (pictured)is stamped with it's own (carrier?) number 1.U1614, 2.U1431.
I see in the parts list, that there are nearly 30 different suspension related parts that are prefixed with the "U" is this any clue as to the origin of these wheels.
Do you have one of Jeff Plowmans books? ,according to which N.Z in Aug 42 was committed to building 2500 carriers. many parts were on hand and many orders for parts were being filled (from Aust, U.S.etc), and could not be cancelled. For example,in Feb 43, there were about 1.1 million surplus track links here (A350,000., U.S.750,000)
New zealands requirement was for 520 carriers, a further 650 had been built, ordered by Britian,and then no longer required.The 2500 was over and above.
So Tony, which way bogie wheels went accross the Tasman, I have no idea.

Tony Smith · #22 25-06-08, 11:03

Well spotted, Lynn.

Brenton, if you're wondering what Lynn's post is about, we discussed 5 spoke wheels Here, and then moved on to Here. The presence of 3 of these wheels proves nothing either way, but it does show that they appear in the strangest places.

BSHEVLIN · #23 25-06-08, 14:22

I WILL BE WORKING ON THE CARRIER IN THE TANK MUSEUM EVERY TIME
I GET THE CHANCE FOR THE NEXT FEW WEEKS TO GET IT MOBILE AGAIN

AS IM HAVING FUEL PROBS AT THE MOMENT

AND I NEED TO MANUFACTURE THE GEAR CHANGE LEVER AND ASSEMBLY

NORMALLY OVER EVERY LUNCHES 1230- 1330 AND AFTER 1600-1700ISH AND WHEN THE MUSEUM IS OPEN ON WEEKENDS. STOP BY AND HAVE A CHAT WHEN IN THE PUCKA AREA ALL YOU AUSSIE CARRIER OWNERS OUT THEIR AND PROVIDE SOME ADVISE AND KNOWLEGE AS IM STILL NEW TO THE CARRIER SEEN.

PS....

FROM THIS WEEK ON FOR THE NEXT 3- 4 WEEKENDS THE MUSEUM WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR SCHOOL HOLIDAYS ECT...

BSHEVLIN · #24 10-07-08, 14:36

check out the for-sale section as i am interested in selling this 2pdr carrier

BSHEVLIN · #25 06-10-08, 11:32

i have now sorted out my fuel problems and the gear linkage assembly for the vehicle arrived today.

Which was nicely assembled by Colin Jones may thanks .

Tomorrow i will fix the assembly to the gearbox and possibly take it for its first drive within the week. i have located a few more components for the gun that i will replicate and have fitted in the next few weeks.

its all starting to come together !!!!

i anticipate having the Tank Attack Carrier at Corowa 30 as a running exhibit...
if time from work allows.. as i am regular army and that is a busy time with exercises

will post pics in next few days of progress and some interesting pics of a completed carrier internals & fittings

BSHEVLIN · #26 08-10-08, 12:10

i now have the gear linkage all hooked up and working and the fuel system fully functioning now anticipate taking vehicle for first drive on weekend after greasing the boogies & linkages ect.

engine turn over nicely 1st go and sounds great.--- !! nice note !!!

will add some video and pics on the weekend coming.

many thanks to phill at the tank museum with the help on the engine.

BSHEVLIN · #27 01-11-08, 22:05

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UatV5...&feature=email

i had a few teething problems still its not doing any hard turns and not turning very well to the right. i still have to ajust some linkages still.

managed to do a gear change on the move now thats challenging now i have even more respect for the guys who operated these vehicle in northern Australia During ww2 as we only drove it for about 15 mins but both of us were buggered and bruised.

BSHEVLIN · #28 13-11-08, 10:22

vehicle has been sold