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Old 25-11-08, 19:21
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It was more of a comment to how blatantly obvious it was that "Yes the hood did need to be opened before the engine could come out" The nice thing with these old machines and their manuals is that you don't need a doctorate to work on them.
Jordan, if you understand that these were written so the simplest farm hand could understand them, then you realise how ingenious their system was. It's kind of like the "cartoon" type military weapons manuals of the Viet Nam era - they recognised that the average educational aptitude of the average recruit wasn't all that high and rewrote everything accordingly. To us, it's somewhat amusing and a bit insulting, but for someone with no more than a Grade 8 education, they worked.

And believe me, the K.I.S.S. principle remains sacred, in any organised environment...
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Old 26-11-08, 02:13
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... It's kind of like the "cartoon" type military weapons manuals of the Viet Nam era...
Cartoons continue that "fine" tradition. See:
https://www.logsa.army.mil/psmag/pshome.cfm
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Old 26-11-08, 15:46
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Cartoons continue that "fine" tradition. See:
https://www.logsa.army.mil/psmag/pshome.cfm
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Old 26-11-08, 23:01
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Hi Stew!

That sample looks really good! For the hemp rope, try the TSC (the country store). I bought a spool of 3/8 hemp in the one in Kemptville recently. Good stuff, matches the stuff on some of my other vehs. Price wasn't bad (I'll have to check what it was... failing memory, perhaps I should smoke some of the rope! ) They had 1/2 inch as well but its too stiff for the smaller vehicles I was working on at the time.

Check with the Hammond gang for a source of repop engine cover hold-down 'tangs'. These, with a five inch spring, were used on many tarps instead of rope. If your cargo box has the extended buttons that look like a chess rook, instead of hooks for rope the springs and tangs are the way to go. I repopped a few for my LAAT tarp... easy-peasy and quite cheaply done.

Based on the process so far, am I safe in assuming that I can slip the planned expenditure to after Christmas (take that you PC 'winter holiday' jerks!)... sure would make budgetting easier right now! I'm still committed for one, don't lose faith!

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Old 27-11-08, 01:08
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Hi Stew!

Check with the Hammond gang for a source of repop engine cover hold-down 'tangs'. These, with a five inch spring, were used on many tarps instead of rope. If your cargo box has the extended buttons that look like a chess rook, instead of hooks for rope the springs and tangs are the way to go. I repopped a few for my LAAT tarp... easy-peasy and quite cheaply done.

Based on the process so far, am I safe in assuming that I can slip the planned expenditure to after Christmas (take that you PC 'winter holiday' jerks!)... sure would make budgetting easier right now! I'm still committed for one, don't lose faith!

Mike
Mike,

I thought that my truck box had those 'nubbins' on the sides and front for some reason. I first saw those 'rooks' in use on your LAAT at BB3 ( or was it 2? ) and thought I might have them for the same reasons. For some reason I thought that was a later, even post-war, method to hold the cover to the truck.

The hemp rope needs to the the last thing installed, so I shall work on this after the covers are underway. All I have some days is faith ...

See pix. Thanks Mike.


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Old 27-11-08, 04:16
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Hmmm! Another research project to see when the rooks and hooks were applied!

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Old 27-11-08, 04:54
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.... I always referred to them as mini capsan winches.......

All the early boxes had them...... and if you search the archive pictures from CLive you will see that the early box canvas had some kind of leather strap with keyholes in them.... they fitted over them funny little "whatever"..... all early boxes also had the curves hooks welded to the box and they seemed to be used to secure a short tarp over the box when the "bows" were not used.... again this is based on factory pictures from Clive.....

It would make sense that with field experience the typical metal spring hood type clasps where used on the tarps to secure the tarp under some tension yet could be very quickly released for battle situations.

Grant has reproduced some very accurate copies of the spring devices.... even importing the suitable springs from the USA in yard long strips from an outfit that would not ship to Canadians even when using a UPS box in Ogdensburg...... he used the good services and good will of Phil in NH to remail to the barn...... the Caldwells are also reproducing them as well.



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Old 26-11-08, 23:13
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Rob..
Your link gives this reponse... Secure Connection Failed
www.logsa.army.mil uses an invalid security certificate.
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(Error code: sec_error_untrusted_issuer) * This could be a problem with the server's configuration, or it could be someone trying to impersonate the server. * If you have connected to this server successfully in the past, the error may be temporary, and you can try again later.
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Alex, It worked at work...could be the issue. I tried the url at home and got the same tripe. Here is another url to try displaying some of the covers of the old style

http://dig.library.vcu.edu/cdm4/docu...TR=5624&REC=18

A little history of the document:
http://www4.ncsu.edu/~wlcherry/widgets_blog/psmag.pdf

If all else fails, I can check out the booklets at work...assuming you want to maintain your Bradley/Apache/M1A2/3 Abrams...
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