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15-03-09, 17:32
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What kind and size of CMP do you need it for? As to your carrier please confirm whether it's a ZA10316 or ZA10315. Bruce 
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15-03-09, 17:35
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This is interesting, I did not know that CMP's like my F15A even had built on antennas ......... any pics of what they would look like ? also what kind of radio would they have gone to ? portable or built in ?
any pics and info would be great ......... neat twist on CMP's
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16-03-09, 10:05
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sapper740, I sent you an email last night, I will get some photos to you in the next day or two, I picked up some more of the straps and more of the "mount carriers" yesterday..along with more ariel mounting bit...gotta sort them out and dig out the other bits I have for the 19 Sets that are in storage right now.
Too be honest, I know very little about these radios, I was just lucky enough to find the mounting parts on my travels Dean
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17-03-09, 03:17
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Here's some pix Dean sent me so I downsized and posted them. Now we can all figure out just what he has. One thing for sure there's lots of mounting brackets.
Just which brackets and straps would be needed to mount the set in a CMP? As for the aerial mounts, which type of aerial would the cones be for? I assume the cones and 6 holed plates go together.
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1940 Cab 11 C8 Wireless with 1A2 box & 11 set 1940 Cab 11 C8 cab and chassis 1940 Cab 11 C15 with 2A1 & Motley mount & Lewis gun 1940 Cab 11 F15A w/ Chev rear ends 1941 Cab 12 F15A 1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5 1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box 1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box 1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP 1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box 1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor MkII Bren gun carrier chassis x 2
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17-03-09, 04:30
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Sadly I don't know the length of the #3 fixing strap. However it would be longer then the #2 fixing strap (10.5") but not as long as the really long ones. Does that make sense
Or if you don't have any, I would gladly take one of the long ones. Jordan
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17-03-09, 09:20
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Hose spouts
Dean, could you post a pic of the flexi spouts for all of us to share please?
It will help those of us at the furtherest ends of the earth to see what we should be looking for! cheers Rob
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17-03-09, 15:10
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The single item of its type, in the center of the first photo, is a Number 19 Wireless Set mount for a Variometer. The rings with six holes are usually made of wood but I've heard there was also a rubber pattern. It is used as an insulator for the cone shaped aerial mount which is used for the Number 19 Wireless A-Set. The B-Set aerial mount is usually about 4" tall and 1.5" diameter rubber and the aerial itself is about 2.5' long being for short range formation transmissions. The rubber part would mount onto a short pipe looking thing. Don't you just love technical jargon
 Looks like the short and long straps are the lengths used for power supply and transceiver to each fasten down to the mounting plates when side by side. The middle size strap used for the PS/U to attach to the top of the transceiver has thus far also eluded me. I built one following a tip from another forum member, by lengthening a spare short strap. So there are at least three of us needing the medium size for our wireless sets.
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03-04-09, 22:06
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Pic No.1 (laid out on the floor) The mounting brackets (with the rubber shock mounts) are used in pairs to fit a (demountable) WS19 into a truck - they're part of the "Truck and Ground Station" outfit, and require the set to be mounted on Carrier No.3 (23) - the wooden board type - or the later No.25 - steel with a strap that goes all the way around set and supply unit. Top left of picture: Aerial Base No.8, Mounting No.3 - a spacer that fits under the aerial base to allow clearance for the connector plate (if used) and to center the feeder cable in the cut-out part of the mounting (or vehicle skin) to aboid wear/short circuits. These exist in wood (with cork gaskets), rubber, and (post WW2 steel (need rubber gaskets to seal the vehicle). Top middle: Aerial Base No.8 - Standard base for the 'A' set, uses the 4-ft "Aerial Rods, F" (no 1, 2 & 3) to make various lengths of whip antenna. Centre of picture: "Plates, Seating, No.4" this is part of the Truck and Ground station. It fits to the left hand side of the power supply unit and holds the variometer. It also has a _rigid_ paxolin/tufnol aerial mounting permanently connected to the variometer by means of a copper strap. It takes 'F' rods when used as a ground station, or an aerial feeder (No.9?) cable that connects to a Base No.8 for use in the vehicle. Right hand side: loads of mounting straps for the WS19 carriers. Short ones for the supply unit, long ones for the set. These are for Carriers No.1 (21) or 3 (23). ------------ Pic No.2 (the ammo box) Aerial bases, clamping straps, an operators lamp, and a load of little boxes that could contain anything! (Probably lamps, clips and small parts. Hope this is some help. I don't know the CMP, but if the set is fitted permanently, you need Carrier No.1 (or 21 which is the later painted version), or if it's a demountable setup, the wooden board Carrier No.3 (or 23). Chris.
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18-03-09, 02:48
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My CMP is licensed as a 1942 C15. It has the 13 cab, modified to Left-hand drive, and the frame was lengthened to give it a wheel base of 135 1/2". It had no box when I bought it but was told it was originally a Wireless van. Who knows?
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18-03-09, 06:41
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Thanks Dean,
It seems the spout screws on to the threaded outlet.
It must have been slow to empty when you compare the CMP and UC funnels, which allow a can to be up-ended to drain. Have you found any stampings like a broad arrow? cheers Rob Last edited by Rob Beale; 18-03-09 at 06:43. Reason: typo
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18-03-09, 15:55
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These horsecocks will also attach to the threaded spout on the bottom of the funnels.
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