12-Cab C60L & More - Page 9

Clive_Dakers · #**241** 02-02-09, 22:52

Lower box is a C.219 for 40mm Bofors

Upper box is a C.206 for 25lb cartridges

Bob Moseley (RIP) · #**242** 02-02-09, 22:57

Hi Andrew - you have yourself there a Carrier jack holder. Well done.

Bob

aj.lec · #**243** 03-02-09, 08:12

Now all I need is a carrier to bolt it on to

Thanks for the identifications and confirmation

aj.lec · #**244** 06-03-09, 07:37

Ran in to the former owner of the first f60l cab 12 i have ,and was talking about the old girl and mentioned he had been looking through some old slides he had found
He was kind enough to get them copied to photo form and send a copy to me
I think photos like these are great to see their previous use and a bit of their history

aj.lec · #**245** 06-03-09, 08:52

Interesting to see it didnt go too far away from the early pictures
This picture is as found with the two silos in the background (allbeit a lot rustier now then they were when first photos taken)

aj.lec · #**246** 19-03-09, 12:21

finished the rivet work on the c8 finally

aj.lec · #**247** 21-03-09, 10:09

Do you recognise this one max ?

Very big day by myself and the oxy

But extremely glad this job is finished till the next truck

Repairs completed to the c60l chassis

Keith Webb · #**248** 21-03-09, 10:22

Very interesting to see this sort of engineering, Andrew.

Bob McNeill · #**249** 21-03-09, 11:06

A J it,s a credit to you, well done.

Mike Kelly · #**250** 22-03-09, 02:14

Andrew

When you have the time, can you tell us all how you went about the rivetting ??

What method you employed .. it looks very neat I must say. And, where did you obtain the rivets. Were they made locally by a friendly machinist ?

mike

Tony Smith · #**251** 22-03-09, 02:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Kelly

What method you employed .. it looks very neat I must say. And, where did you obtain the rivets. Were they made locally by a friendly machinist ?

mike

There is a chap that always has a stall at the Swapmeets around Sydney, and he frequently advertises in the restoration magazines:

aj.lec · #**252** 22-03-09, 05:14

The majority of the rivets i used were pre formed with a tapered head
The first one tony showed would have been better but i took the ones i could find
I made the longer 1/2 inch ones as i could not buy them
I used a block of cast (old tractor weight)drilled to the right depth and cut the rod to the depth plus about the diameter of the rod ,heat head only and peaned and mandrelled head to shape

I made up several different length backing bars with the head machined to take the shape of the rivet head
very important to have a tight ,solid backer when driving and forming the opposite head as any movement at all will result in a loose rivet caused by the flexing on the opposing side

I made up a forming bar using a jackhammer tip and machined the curve to suit the size rivet head you want to form.These have good hardened steel on the impact end

I found you get it into postion and wedge in solidly .
Then cut the rivet to length ,About 1/2 inch for 1/2 inch rivets and generally 1/2 inch for the 3/8 rivets as they seemed to need more to fill the voids on the initial strikes
Then begin heating the entire rivet as much as possible .Very important on the first hits as it allows the whole shank to swell into the cavities when driven
The first series of hits i drove directly on to the end until it filled the hole gaps might take several heating turns

Once this was done reheat and i formed a rough head with the ball pein of the hammer trying to get as uniform as possible . This cut down a lot of time doing the actual head forming cycles

Reheat then using the forming bar strike directly then slight circular motions to form a uniform curved head .This may take several reheatings till you get a uniform head pattern and a nice ,tight flat face against the metalwork you are trying to rivet together

I also made up a set of large clamping backing pliers to hold the rivets where I couldnt get a backing bar wedged in to
Even this needed some additional wedging to stop the strike vibration loosening the rivet head

Rest day today as the wrists ,elbows and eyes copped a smashing yesterday

Bob Moseley (RIP) · #**253** 22-03-09, 10:57

Andrew - that is dedication to originality. Very well done.

Bob

aj.lec · #**254** 22-03-09, 11:48

Did a rivet count tonight. There is 17 on the c8 chassis and 52 on the c60l chassis
Also did a few experimental ones and stuffed up a few

Once set up with half a clue it Took about 8 hours to do 40 by myself

Reasonably happy with how they came out

Definately keep the number of the rivet guy Tony posted if any more come up

Max Hedges · #**255** 22-03-09, 22:29

G'day Andrew see you've been busy lately.

I'm in the process of getting a F15 chassis ready to put a cab 12 on it.

I think I have all the parts I need from the chev cab 12 so if you are down this way we'll meet up sometime to see what bits you need.

Max

Mike Kelly · #**256** 25-03-09, 02:02

Would be great if you could run a half day workshop and charge a fee ... a few of us would be interested ... but distance is against us.

Again, well done on your innovative restoring skills.
Mike

aj.lec · #**257** 25-03-09, 07:54

I am definately no expert on the matter
Just a bit of trial and error

Wouldn't be worried about a fee
I would be glad to show anyone how i did it (right or wrong way)
Just let me know ,grab some rivets ,put your bits and oxy set in a trailer and come on up

Be glad to have a working bee in the shed and a bit of a bbq and maybe a few drinks as well

restoration is always better with a bit of company

Max -Sounds like a good project -Is it one to keep Howards company ?

aj.lec · #**258** 26-03-09, 12:46

c60l chassis had a trip to the sandblasters today and I gave her a coat of primer tonight

aj.lec · #**259** 29-03-09, 11:34

c60l and c8 chassis got a colour coat this weekend
60l colour was good but will be getting a better colour match for the c8

Alex van de Wetering · #**260** 30-03-09, 15:43

Andrew,

Excellent work on the rivits...I just checked Youtube, but I haven't been able to find your DIY rivit video's yet

Both chassis' look great with a little paint on them. It's hard to judge the colours in the pictures, but I think the green looks pretty good, although maybe a little too light. I mixed and painted some colour samples according to Mike Starmers receipe a week or two ago and the green comes pretty close to yours, although a bit darker if I remember correctly.

Alex

aj.lec · #**261** 03-04-09, 12:38

Fairly close this time i think

a fair bit darker with less gloss ,original engine cover inside provided the colour

Bob McNeill · #**262** 03-04-09, 13:00

A J The old hills hoist is good for small bits up to doors as you can give each one a hit as it comes around, one coat at a time, no mess , the grass looks greener too. Mum will never notice, ha ha.

aj.lec · #**263** 03-04-09, 13:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob McNeill

A J The old hills hoist is good for small bits up to doors as you can give each one a hit as it comes around, one coat at a time, no mess , the grass looks greener too. Mum will never notice, ha ha.

Thought i may take up a new profession as a concrete stenciler

aj.lec · #**264** 06-04-09, 04:40

A little bit closer

aj.lec · #**265** 09-05-09, 05:38

The latest member to the family arrived today
Fits right in to the rare and rusty theme

A bit of variety being a Ford fgt no9

With a covert operation with the tilt tray driver managed ( SO FAR ) to slip it in undetected from cranky sentinel

Keith Webb · #**266** 09-05-09, 07:36

Sounds like a good name for a club or perhaps even a documentary.

Did you administer sleeping pills to the Sentinel?

How did you do it???????

No, wait - you can probably sell that secret for a lot of money.

Anyway congratulations on getting her home. I notice the crane has disappeared.

aj.lec · #**267** 09-05-09, 08:32

Ssshhh dont tell anyone but All I can say is thank goodness for kids sports on saturday mornings

plus a good excuse to split to do other duties

crane section overhung the tilt tray too much so was taken off and is now laying in the grass

aj.lec · #**268** 15-05-09, 12:48

As it turns out it seems that the FGT is not a new sighting to a certain mlu member .All be-it in the 70's
Recognised the old girl whilst looking through Keiths Old Cmp site
Thanks to Keith I now have some pictures of the old girl in it's working history