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25-03-09, 00:41
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W.D. number CZ4206605
Period document, a road accident report, listing 1st Cdn Army Ford 15cwt truck with vehicle W.D. number CZ4206605 (read more on my web page).
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25-03-09, 00:52
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Here's five from Canada's Fighting Vehicles. I was kind of surprised that the White fit the category.
Note the two penthouses on the HUP. CZ4210143.jpg CZ4214008.jpg CZ4228552.jpg CZ4255794.jpg CZ4258169.jpg
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1940 Cab 11 C8 Wireless with 1A2 box & 11 set 1940 Cab 11 C8 cab and chassis 1940 Cab 11 C15 with 2A1 & Motley mount & Lewis gun 1940 Cab 11 F15A w/ Chev rear ends 1941 Cab 12 F15A 1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5 1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box 1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box 1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP 1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box 1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor MkII Bren gun carrier chassis x 2 Last edited by cletrac (RIP); 25-03-09 at 01:00.
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25-03-09, 17:15
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Previous Collections of WD numbers
Over the years there have been two attempts to collect WD numbers from CMPs both John Merchant and Peter Ford tried to collect this information from CMP owners. In corresponding with both of them one of the issues was the originality of the numbers reported.
When I first restored my HUP I put it in the markings of a Canadian Unit at the close of the war. The WD number on the door was totally bogus taken form the vehicles serial number, yes now I know that there is no correlation but then I didn't. After having learned the true history of my HUP and found proof my marking problems were solved. Thus I think you have probably hit on the best route to a list of WD numbers and matching vehicles. Gleaning through the photo archives that were not readily accessible before the web. Cheers Phil
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26-03-09, 23:57
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Here's some more. I've edited my original post to link the pix to the CZ numbers.
You can't see the hood on this water truck but then all water bodies were on Cab 12s, weren't they? CZ421344.jpg CZ42590.jpg CZ4285706.jpg CZ4288020 & CZ4287215.jpg CZ4204797.jpg
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1940 Cab 11 C8 Wireless with 1A2 box & 11 set 1940 Cab 11 C8 cab and chassis 1940 Cab 11 C15 with 2A1 & Motley mount & Lewis gun 1940 Cab 11 F15A w/ Chev rear ends 1941 Cab 12 F15A 1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5 1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box 1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box 1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP 1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box 1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor MkII Bren gun carrier chassis x 2 Last edited by cletrac (RIP); 27-03-09 at 06:12.
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I dug up a few more. It's quite surprising how far out the numbers on a lot of the restored vehicles really are. Maybe this thread will help solve that problem. I'm going to delete all the references with no pix for that reason.
The CZ numbers seem to go from about 4204000 to 4290000. That's about ninety thousand 8 cwt and 15 cwt vehicles in Canadian service overseas. According to Canada's Fighting Vehicles there were 133442 vehicles of the types I've found produced. When you take into account the ones that stayed home and the ones that went to other countries that makes me think there must have been large gaps in the numbering system or more types included. CZ4204396.jpg CZ4287946.jpg CZ4204994.jpg
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1940 Cab 11 C8 Wireless with 1A2 box & 11 set 1940 Cab 11 C8 cab and chassis 1940 Cab 11 C15 with 2A1 & Motley mount & Lewis gun 1940 Cab 11 F15A w/ Chev rear ends 1941 Cab 12 F15A 1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5 1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box 1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box 1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP 1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box 1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor MkII Bren gun carrier chassis x 2 Last edited by cletrac (RIP); 27-03-09 at 07:38.
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27-03-09, 15:29
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I have a number of documents at home, issued at intervals, that list the blocks of WD numbers allocated to the Canadian Army Overseas (CAO). The numbers were not allocated as 420,000 to 450,000 for Jeeps (as an example) but could be 420,000 to 421,500 then 443,700 to 444,600, etc....
In addition to the large blocks in the 4xx,xxx range, the early days of the war saw a numbering system in the 117,000 range (from memory so don't hold me to this). These different systems were based on the vehicle being under the control of either the Service Corps or of the Master General of the Ordnance (MGO). By 1941 these distinctions disppeared and all vehicles in the early block were re-numbered with numbers from the later block. This will explain why lorries made in 1940 could have a WD number that follows a lorry made in 1941. Still with WD numbers - at the beginning of the war the CAO rented vehicles from the War Office. As these were not the property of the CAO the WD numbers were those applied by the British - not even the "c" prefix was permitted. I have some of these lists as well. Unfortunately, all of these documents are at home - and I am not. I will try to remember to update this in November when I am back in God's country.
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