Revolver ID?

[aj.lec]

I still say s&w
dosen't look wide enough in front of the revolving chamber or swept around the hammer like most of the ww2 era colts
Bit hard to tell with the serviceman behinds belt buckle blurring the ejector pin
Appears to have a round barrel so very doubtful a webley

Dose appear it could be a 6" barrel though
As geoff has stated could also be a new century model

Reading through an article and it stated they also produced a 6" model but were generally issued to us troops and not so much allied troops that requested 5" in .38 200 grain slugs

quote "The Victory Revolver was produced during World War II, it is a variation of the Military & Police Model of 1905, fourth change and had the following characteristics between 1942 and 1945:

Barrel: 2, 4, 5, or 6 inch. (4 inch common in .38 special, 5 inch common in 38/200 or .38 S&W)
Sights: Fixed
Finish: Early sandblast blue, sandblast mid-night black (appears grayish black). And finally a parkerized finish. Hammer and Trigger are case hardened.
Grips: Checkered walnut with medallion until early 1942, post February of 1942 they are smooth American Walnut with out medallions. "

picture is a s&w victory in 5"

[servicepub (RIP)]

Absolutely no doubt but that it is a S&W Military & Police (later known as the Model 10.)

Canada was a big buyer of these and the full history is detailed in my book "Canadian Military Handguns, 1855-1985"

"In 1932, the British Army adopted a lighter top-break revolver - the Enfield No.2 Mk I - chambered for the new .380/200 service cartridge (a military loading of the .38 Smith & Wesson employing a somewhat heavier 200 grain bullet). During the 1930's, the fledgling RCAF obtained 585 of these British pistols, but with the outbreak of WWII, Canada elected to adopt the Smith & Wesson "Military & Police" model revolver (in effect, a lighter version of the "Hand Ejector") which, in .38S&W chambering, would accommodate the standard .380/200 British service cartridge. Over 118,000 of these revolvers were purchased from 1939 through 1943.

Configuration of Canadian-issue arms: Double-action revolver, ranged from early acquisitions with commercial polished blue finish and checkered walnut grips through brushed blue to later "wartime finishes" of sandblast blue and sandblast parkerizing with smooth wood grips; 4", 5" and 6" barrels (5" most common); .38 caliber; 6-round capacity; cylinder swings out to the left for loading and extraction. In service, 1939-1964."

From www.Canadiansoldiers.com, based on my book.

[Neil Ashley]

Loads of these for sale in the UK as deacts

I assume this is the same weapon here.

http://www.worldwidearms.com/popup.c...7133&p_i=97133

[Dean (Ajax)]

Kicking around here somewhere is a book on British Service revolvers.I remember reading that Canada recieved a pile of pistols from the US on a Lend Lease Bases..when Camp X opened they guurads first carried these Lead Lease Pistol before Automatiics were issued..and oother odd thiing, is that one type of these pistol could take 2 differant types of rounds..wish I could find my boook.

Dean

[sapper740]

Originally Posted by Dean (Ajax)

Kicking around here somewhere is a book on British Service revolvers.I remember reading that Canada recieved a pile of pistols from the US on a Lend Lease Bases..when Camp X opened they guurads first carried these Lead Lease Pistol before Automatiics were issued..and oother odd thiing, is that one type of these pistol could take 2 differant types of rounds..wish I could find my boook.

Dean

Dean, you're probably thinking about the .38 Long Colt and the .38 Special which were both U.S. service rounds used in the S.&W. Military and Police revolver. Their dimensions, other than length, were identical and thusly could be chambered in the same firearm. There are any number of revolvers that can chamber various rounds. Ignoring the numerous .22 RF cartridges and the various hand-cannons based on the .45-70 cartridge et al we'll concentrate on the centre-fire cartridges.

Any revolver chambered for the longest and highest pressure round will safely fire any shorter and lower pressure round:

.357 Maximum>.357 Magnum>.38 Spcl.>.38 Long Colt>.38 Short Colt

.444 Marlin(a rifle round)>.44 Magnum>.44 Spcl.>.44 Russian

There are currently both a revolver and a derringer being manufactured in the U.S. that will chamber both the .410 shotshell and the .45 LC and for a time Ruger made a revolver they called the convertible which had two cylinders, one for .38 Spcl and the other in 9mm Parabellum. Lastly, and not as well known is you can buy chamber inserts that will allow you to safely fire .32 Auto (7.65mm in Europe) in any rifle chambered for .30-30 Winchester, .308 Winchester/7.62 NATO, .30-06, or .300 Winchester Magnum. Derek.

[servicepub (RIP)]

Originally Posted by Dean (Ajax)

Kicking around here somewhere is a book on British Service revolvers.I remember reading that Canada recieved a pile of pistols from the US on a Lend Lease Bases..when Camp X opened they guurads first carried these Lead Lease Pistol before Automatiics were issued..and oother odd thiing, is that one type of these pistol could take 2 differant types of rounds..wish I could find my boook.

Dean

Dean,

There was a book a few years ago by Chamberlain and ??? which, although well researched from a Brit point of view, suffered fom a repetition of BS on the Canadian side. My book was based 100% on archival sources and official documents.
Canada did NOT receive Lend-Lease. We paid for everything we obtained from the US. In fact Canada was a supplier of 'Lend-Lease" athough we called it Mutual Aid.
There was a .45 Colt revolver that, with a half-moon clip, could accept a .45ACP round, designed for automatics. All revolvers in .38, .45 and .455 as well as all automatics in .45 were required for the war effort, and a campaign to collect these was established in 1943.

[cletrac (RIP)]

Derek, you could add the 38 S+w to the end of your list. That's the round the British Enfields take.

[Dean (Ajax)]

Clive, Thganks for slearing that up..I will have to dig that book out this weekkend...also I just started reading "Uot of the Shadows" Which is about how we got up to full production ect during WW2...very interesting so far.

Dean